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As soon as I heard Adelaide insisting there was no way on earth that it would consider trading Dangerfield that we were in with a real chance.

Brendan McCartney Western Bulldogs coach McCartney has resigned from his position at the club after a blockbuster 24 hours for the Bulldogs who will now search for a new coach. Ryan Griffen The Dogs' skipper Griffen who fell out with McCartney during the season still wants out. Joel Patfull Patfull has officially become a GWS player after he was traded from the Lions in exchange for pick 21. Allen Christensen The Cats are prepared to accept pick 21 from the Brisbane Lions in exchange for midfielder Christensen. Ben Howlett Howlett, who earlier indicated he would leave if James Hird was removed from the club, has committed by signing a two-year contract extension. Jason Winderlich Winderlich who was also going to leave is now set to remain with the Bombers. OFFICIAL PLAYER MOVEMENT TO DATE • Jarrad Waite moves from Carlton to North Melbourne as an unrestricted free agent. • Shaun Higgins moves from the Western Bulldogs to North Melbourne as a restricted free agent. • James Frawley moves from Melbourne to Hawthorn as an unrestricted free agent. • Nick Malceski moves from Sydney to Gold Coast an an unrestricted free agent. • Jono O'Rourke and pick 43 traded from GWS to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 19 and 40 • Jeff Garlett and pick 83 traded from Carlton to Melbourne in exchange for picks 61 and 79. • Joel Patfull traded from Brisbane to GWS in exchange for pick 21.

Something big must be going down for Melbourne to entertain the idea. Until we know what the club has in mind you can only judge this on the face of it and that is that it's a pretty ordinary deal.

Then let's keep his name secret, just between you and me.

Robbie's first game

I don't think it would be that hard to argue if you argued on performance, energy and output over the past two or three years.

@traderadio: DONE DEAL: Shane Casley confirms LIVE on air that Joel Patfull will be traded to GWS for pick 21

A Guide to Hird v ASADA Appeal

Today starts off mainly all about GWS Bulldogs-Giants Battle A tense battle between the Giants and the Bulldogs is set to kick off today, as the Giants attempt to secure Ryan Griffen from the club. The Bulldogs insist they will hold Griffen to his contract, despite him requesting a trade. Mark Whiley and Kristian Jaksch The Giants could send Whiley, Jaksch and pick 19 to the Carlton in exchange for pick 7. The Giants would then use picks 4 and 7 to attempt to trade with the Bulldogs for Ryan Griffen. Joel Patfull The Giants are also today expected to secure Patfull from the Lions in exchange for pick 21. That pick could then be used in a deal to secure Allen Christensen from the Cats. Swans fuming The Sydney Swans are fuming today after the AFL told the club they cannot trade any players into their club this year or next, unless they are prepared to bring an immediate end to the cost of living allowance. Paddy Ryder Ryder says he feared for the safety of his unborn son at the height of the club's supplements saga. In an extensive interview in the Herald Sun, Ryder says he felt "badly" let down by the club. WJ - meanwhile Melbourne waits on a number of the above and other deals to pan out before its own deals can be finalised

Here's my pick if we keep #23

Yes. Can't help thinking that there must be somebody the club has in mind to spend those $'s spare from Clark and Frawley. Another week of this and let's hope we snare a top liner to add to our list.

DRAFT ORDER 10/10/14 1. St. Kilda 2. Melbourne 3. Melbourne 4. GWS Giants 5. Brisbane 6. Western Bulldogs 7. Carlton 8. Gold Coast 9. Collingwood - Darcy Moore 10. Adelaide 11. West Coast 12. Richmond 13. Fremantle 14. Geelong 15. Gold Coast 16. North Melbourne 17. Port Adelaide 18. Sydney - Isaac Heeney 19. GWS Giants 20. Essendon 21. Brisbane 22. St. Kilda 23. Melbourne 24. GWS Giants - Jack Steele 25. Brisbane 26. Western Bulldogs 27. Western Bulldogs 28. Carlton 29. Gold Coast 30. Collingwood 31. Adelaide 32. West Coast 33. Richmond 34. Fremantle 35. Geelong 36. North Melbourne 37. Port Adelaide 38. Sydney - Jack Hiscox 39. Sydney 40. GWS Giants 41. St. Kilda 42. Melbourne - Billy Stretch 43. Hawthorn 44. Brisbane - Liam Dawson 45. Western Bulldogs 46. Carlton 47. Gold Coast 48. Collingwood 49. Gold Coast 50. Adelaide 51. West Coast 52. Richmond 53. Essendon 54. Fremantle 55. Geelong 56. North Melbourne 57. Port Adelaide 58. Sydney 59. Hawthorn 60. St. Kilda 61. Carlton 62. GWS Giants 63. Brisbane - Harris Andrews, 64. Western Bulldogs - Zaine Cordy 65. Carlton 66. Gold Coast 67. Collingwood 68. Adelaide 69. West Coast 70. Richmond 71. Essendon 72. Fremantle 73. Geelong 74. North Melbourne 75. Port Adelaide 76. Sydney - Abe Davis 77. Hawthorn 78. St. Kilda 79. Carlton 80. GWS Giants 81. Brisbane 82. Western Bulldogs 83. Melbourne 84. Gold Coast 85. Collingwood 86. Adelaide 87. West Coast 88. Richmond 89. Essendon 90. Fremantle 91. Geelong 92. North Melbourne 93. Port Adelaide 94. Sydney 95. Hawthorn [Josh Clayton (Brisbane Lions), Alec Waterman (West Coast) and Jeremy Finlayson (GWS Giants) will join their nominated clubs with their last picks in the draft]

The fourth day of the eight days of official trading saw the first two trades done:- First trade Hawthorn lands the first official trade of the NAB Trade Period, landing GWS midfielder Jono O'Rourke. The Hawks gave up picks 19 + 40 to GWS in exchange for O'Rourke and 43. Second trade Carlton small forward Jeff Garlett has been traded to Melbourne. Garlett and pick 83 were given by the Blues in exchange for picks 61 and 79 from the Demons. Ryan Griffen Western Bulldogs captain Griffen walks out on the club, officially requesting a trade to GWS. The Bulldogs in crisis as their leader says he wants out of the club. They have released a statement this afternoon slamming the skipper for his move. Joel Patfull Patfull is set to become a GWS player in exchange for pick 21. Expect this deal to get done this week. Patfull still has a year left to run on his contract, but has told the Lions a move to Sydney was his preference. Tim Membrey Membrey will almost certainly join the Saints this NAB Trade Period. Coach Alan Richardson saying: "The Swans are keen to do the right thing by Tim. He's committed to us. It's incredibly likely."

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They might now reconsider the Tom Mitchell non deal ...

Anyone know what's happened to James Muirhead, the promising leg spinner who played well in a couple of International T20s last year but is now back playing district cricket only?

Get outta here. Cale Morton went for pick 88.

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The Romsey connection is problematic given the reputation some of its fine citizens have achieved here on Demonland With a bit of luck Lever comes from the other side of town.

DONE DEAL - Hawthorn has secured Jono O'Rourke and NAB AFL Draft pick No.43 from Greater Western Sydney for picks No.19 & 40

No abuse necessary Ash (in fact you've taken an admirable approach to what Dank, Hird, Little etc have put you and your fellow supporters through). Given the circumstances which have to factor in that he is going to get a holiday at the behest of ASADA/AFL/WADA/CAS, Ryder is probably worth the trade Port Adelaide offered Essendon i.e. pick 17. The thing that's causing the annoyance is that the two clubs and the AFL have colluded together to enable the deal to go ahead and give Essendon a massive bonus in what can only be described as draft tampering. It would also set a poor precedent for other clubs to follow with further rorting in the future with the same or similar schemes which would, in the end, make the system totally unworkable.

There's a lot of white noise going on about this scandal but this part is the one that interests me:- Methinks there is going to be a lot of pressure applied on ASADA from on high to distance itself from the AFL sinkhole and treat any offenders who are guilty of breaches of the WADA Code with a proper measure of seriousness. That means at best a half a season (i.e. in season) for players who co-operate and the full two years for others. The NRL deal and ASADA's handling of the matters, the lack of co-operation from Essendon, the government interference and the AFL's role is not being ignored overseas. Our international sporting reputation is taking a dive and, although its not in their domain, I wonder what other sports bodies think of the latest rort over Ryder. I don't believe they will be impressed. US anti-doping boss Travis Tygart slams Australia's former government over supplements scandal

Ho, hum ... we have entered day four of the official NAB Trade Period and sooner or later something's gotta give... Jeff Garlett and Levi Greenwood Melbourne and Carlton could come to terms as early as today on Garlett while the Greenwood to Collingwood deal also appears close to being finalised. Dayne Beams Beams could still remain a Collingwood player, with the Magpies and Lions unable to come to terms on a suitable trade. The Pies insist they want a young player from the Lions as part of the deal, while Brisbane says its unwilling to let anyone other than picks go. The Ryder rort There are reports that Port Adelaide and Essendon have investigated a plan that could see Ryder move to the Power as an unrestricted free agent. It would then mean the Bombers received compensation from the AFL for him leaving. A further exchange of picks would see an adequate deal get done for both clubs. WJ - the deal will only get done at the expense of the AFL's integrity. If it does, the game falls into disrepute in my view and the damage to the competition, trading, free agency etc will be substantial Allen Christensen Justin Leppitsch met with the former Cats midfielder who wants to go to the Lions in Melbourne yesterday. Sam Grimley The Hawthorn tall has asked the club to trade him even though he is contracted for next season.

I agree that the pick 3 for Frawley was way over the top in terms of his worth but only when you consider it in isolation. We applied for special assistance for the second year in a row. Last year, one of the reasons we were knocked back was because of pressure from most of the other AFL clubs on the AFL Commission relating to the fact that we had been fined in relation to the "tanking" enquiry. We applied again. There was further unrest from the clubs and we were knocked back despite our record of 10 wins in three seasons which I believe would have been sufficient had the applicant not been tainted with the tanking brush as we were. So, for the fourth or fifth time we were punished by the AFL over the tanking issue.We deserved the Frawley compo at 3 and even better. Along comes Essendon and without applying for special assistance, the AFL seems to be putting its imprimatur on a deal that, if nothing else, stinks of special assistance by stealth. It's nothing like the Dal Santo deal of last year because the proposal suggests that Port Adelaide gives Essendon its first round pick in addition to the compensation pick. That is what I call draft tampering and the AFL is being anything but transparent if it approves of such non-sense. The scheme demonstrates an alarming decline in the level of integrity we are seeing from the AFL.

The AFL is run by an independent commission but it set a precedent last year of taking notice of the clubs who were upset about Melbourne's application for draft assistance because of the fact that we had recently been the subject of a tanking investigation. Now the AFL is colluding with a club that has been involved in at best poor governance over a drugs program that involved injecting its players with thousands of needles. The collusion involves assisting the Bombers (who lost draft picks as part of the sanctions against them) in a substantial way with regard to a "trade" deal that's nothing less than a phony scam. I can see clubs like Hawthorn and Collingwood up in arms over this.