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Harris Andrews and Callum Wilkie are also in the top 5. Meaningless stat, just means they are taking the best forwards every week.

There aren't examples of coaches in the AFL era winning a GF, rebuilding, then winning again with same club. Longmire went very close. Malthouse rebuilt and finally won after the early 2000s losses. Geelong have never done a full rebuild, and Chris Scott inherited the team for his first flag. Precedent isn't everything, but history says Goodwin won't be the one getting us back to the top. It would not surprise me at all if he stays on next year. As a cash strapped club I doubt we will want to pay two coaches at the same time.

Goodwin has stubbornly said we're still trying to win every game, and won't shut down players, but I'd love us to think ahead to 2026. I don't think Laurie has what it takes, but give rest of the year to show something in the AFL. It'll either show us something, or give another team something so he can request a trade for his last contracted year. Johnson has another year. Play him for more AFL exposure. I'd much rather him rucking than JVR. Adams hasn't done enough to demand a call up, but it's time to see what's there, if anything. Out of contract next year. Kynan Brown is out of contract. Poor kid played 2 games as the sub. Seems destined for delisting.

Jason Taylor has a clear draft weakness... key forwards. Weideman, JVR, Jefferson all drafted under his watch.

Jefferson looks like a 16 year old at the local club playing in the mens seniors. Zero confidence, presence or physicality in anything he does.

Port now below us on percentage, with Adelaide to come next week. Win tonight and next week and there's a fair chance we jump to 11th. Port and Carlton have tough runs home, so we could keep it. Nothing in it for us other than pride and ruining Essendon's pick.

I wish JVR or Jefferson played like Morris. I also hope Tholstrup can start playing like Lohmann.

Under Roos' drafts (2013-2015) we drafted five premiership players: Salem, Petracca, Brayshaw, Oliver and ANB. Four of those five were with picks inside the top 8. Petracca and Brayshaw were obvious picks 2 and 3 in that draft. Weideman was a notable bust during this time. Under Goodwin (2016-2020) we drafted 9 premiership players: Spargo, Fritsch, Petty, Sparrow, Jordon, Jackson, Pickett, Rivers, Bowey. Only two of them were in the first round. There wasn't a single draft bust in this time. If coaches are involved, I would argue that drafting under Goodwin was better - we got a lot of fantastic players with picks in the 20s and 30s. Goodwin also had less to work with in the draft, as we used three first round picks in trades for Lever and May.

Nailed it. Tholstrup is lucky to survive, and i'd be open to giving Lindsay a game at Casey or just a week off, but there's no-one at VFL level pushing for replacement of either player.

Like any trauma, nothing will ever heal what happened in the 2023 semi final. But a win next weekend, kicking Carlton while they're down, would certainly help put a smile on my face.

Think Lindsay is tiring after limited pre-season, might need a spell - not just in the VFL but a week off full stop.

Don't understand what's going on when he was sold as a high energy player. Shows none of that on the field. Is it all above the shoulders? Time on his side but so far not great.

If Tmac plays every game he finishes on 249 games. Shame.

I am willing to admit, after the first ten minutes I was ready to end his career today. Credit to him, fought through and showed a bit. Something to work with there. Happy with his game. Unfortunately we have some serious issues with our 2023 draft picks. Windsor and Tholstrup are struggling massively. Tholstrup no physicality and jogging his way around the game, while Windsor had one touch in a half of footy. Caleb needs a full game next week for Sparrow.

Lever is so bad