Jjrogan

The 2 things that stand out watching these highlights are his skills under pressure and that he might be Joey Montagna's favourite player before the year is out.

1st quarter We move the ball through the corridor to Langdon. For the sake of moving the ball quickly he handpasses from overlap run to Billings who handpasses to Oliver who has nowhere to go doubles back on his left and turnover rebound. Goal. Oliver gives away a 50 metre penalty through impetulance which hes been doing his entire career. Learnings . Goal. Langford kicks beautifully into the corridor to Bowey who kicks a beauty from 50 in front. Rivers makes a mistake by hand trying to go back into the corridor. Turnover. Senior players in oliver trac fritsch watching, pointing, high fiving while suns player runs past. Learnings. Goal. Please dont make me watch the rest of the game. If the right players get the ball we are ok. If players are switched on, we are ok. Right now its Goodwin's job to get both done.

yea, you're right of course. Just watching the same mistakes and turnovers week after week is very frustrating. We need to get a different midfield mix which is probably on the cards anyhow once everyone is available.

Yea im happy to priortise this. I like winning games and losing them on expected score or bad goal kicking. It was fun being relevant. Enjoy your new paradigm.

Very tough reading. Period :(

Out: this absurb game plan of fast movement, handball chains and corridor with cringe worthy skills. Humiliation. Delusion that we can play this way. In: contest defence, playing to the strengths of the playing list. winning by boredom. 4 points. respect. Not going to happen so look away now.

That was an embarassing quarter. For the Suns. OUTSCORED LOL

"Brisbane, the fastest team in the competition last year. Sydney, the second slowest, but both of them are the highest scoring teams. “So you look at the second slowest with Sydney, it’s not a negative, that is just how they want to play, it’s working for them. You go to the year before, Collingwood were actually the third slowest team in the competition, but it got them the flag." At the very least, the way they are calculating this new metric doesnt sound like something that is necessarily correlated with success but nevermind, lets continue to pray at the ball movement altar.

NM (mel) Scoring from def - 38 (22) From fwd - 44 (30) From centre - 43 (14) Scoring from Stoppage - 69 (17) Scoring from Turnover - 60 (43) My own opinion is that we have prioritsed ball movement (in this forum and the coaching staff) in the past 12 months and thats been a SIGNIFICANT detriment to our turnover differential, where the game ultimately matters. We just dont have the right players in the right period of their careers for this game plan. Hope im very wrong.

Fully respect this point of view but this is not the make up of the current Premiers. Maybe the exception that proves the rule, but the Lions 24 were a high mark, high kick, high clearances, low defensive 50 rebound, low handball and low intercept team. They got the ball inside 50 and relied on some contested marking strength. The 'modern' game (statistically at least) is about outscoring your opponent on turnovers, theres a few ways to do that still.

I do! We've not lost to them since Trump was a 'thing'. We are playing at our home ground against an interstate team that didnt make the finals and we are finals aspirants ourselves. Their top 6 are mostly butchers (albeit decent) but their bottom 6 are no better than ours. I'm all for heart and effort but this one is a must win. Non negotiable. Do not let King win them the game. Do not let Sexton kick 4 cheapies. And do not leave Anderson unchecked from stoppages, he's an absolute gun.

An odd metric to rank a player's value as we dont know his specific role but anyway. He's had 96 and 97 in the past 2 weeks and over 100 against the Pies last year. So basically 3 in the past 5 games if you consider that coming close.

Good point re old dogs and new tricks. Its simply not that easy to significantly change your skills and decision making under pressure after you're in the afl system for 5 years. But yes, Goody is under pressure cause he keeps putting round pegs in square holes. Thats on him. Geelong, Pies, Swans... can u tell me their starting cba midfield this week? I cant. Also, the 'learnings' mantra has lost its resonance. What a load of nonsense its become. Case in point (and I apologise for the pile on here on JV but it illustrates a point). Viney had a shocking end of the 3rd. Ok, skill errors happens. Its happened now for 5 years but it happens. 'Learnings'. I'm sure it was mentioned at 3 qtr time. Then, middle of the fourth quarter then he gets the ball off half back, under some pressure in a pack but not heavy. And without looking, he torpedoes down the line to 3 norf players?!?! Where and what exactly has been learnt? Having said this, this is the one week we do not want to change the midfield mix. GC mids are bulls and butchers the same as us, but ours are a class above which is why we havent lost to them for 10 years. (and JV to be in our best)

I disagree he has lost the players. He (and the rest of this forum) is asking the players to play to a game plan they are simply not capable of at AFL level consistency. Bowey kicks through the centre to avoid down the line 'boredom'. Turnover goal. Woewodin asks for a handpass through the centre to avoid down the line "boredom' . Turnover goal. Langdon switches to avoid down the line 'boredom" . Turnover goal. Amd when we are going through the centre, Viney, Oliver and Sparrow are bombing it to Norf's spare. What did supporters expect. The list was built for contest and defence not skills and transition. Some weeks it will work. Some weeks we will get slaughtered. Welcome to the 2025 season.

A grown man yelling at other grown men because his favourite colours didnt win. Lol. Thats the embarassment.