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How are we going to implement a new gameplan which depends on proper skills execution when our skills are terrible. The list was built on contest and defence. we've started adding better ball users through recent drafts but there are still too many poorly skilled players on the list and our forward problems have been there for 3 years unremedied. thats on the coaches. i sincerely hope I'm wrong but we ain't playing finals this year or any other until year without major surgery to this list and coaching team

we really need James Jordons dynamic wing play now. just the man we need to improve our stodgy ball movement. we should never have let him go!

harley reids body language isn't good

jackson looked a meter out of bounds when he took that mark

can;t decide which of these two teams i dislike the most

Great news

I think we should cut JVR some slack. He still young and having the play the KPF1 role with rubbish delivery. definitely worth persisting with in my view

We’ll need to keep some experienced heads around to guide the youngsters but anyone else who we do not think will be in the team for our next flag should be on the table.

Hawks fans i know would prefer if there was less hype. they are still a young team so would rather keep the pressure off for as long as possible.

They recruited very well and have a coach that has devised a game plan which optimises the skillset on his list.

I think its both players and coach our skills are appalling. when the game was contest and defence we could compensate but now our glaring skill deficiencies are laid bare. we have started to address and added some very good users to the list but theres still plenty of work to be done. And goody looks like a dinosaur. so does Voss for that matter. the game has moved on from their gameplan. A new coach is badly required with the attributes to deliver a modern gameplan. I reckon Yze is the one that got away.

Goody deserves respect no matter what happens. He is a legend of the club for ending our drought. The cliff came quickly for us. This list isn't winning anymore flags so i hope the powers that be recognise this and make the changes necessary to set us up to challenge again in a few years time. And i know changing a coach is a big call but I think the game has moved on from Goody and i don;t think he has it in him to re-invent himself. I think a new voice is needed.

A competitive loss is the best I expect. On current form could well be a 50-60 point loss

toby bedford playing well

As much as i hate to say it, hawthorn are the real deal

things have been off for at least a year

robbed? we belted them out the gate of Optus Stadium

i'm not looking forward to this game

His confidence is very low no doubt. But I believe he can get his form back and start contributing again and kicking goals

4 years was not smart. Not smart at all. Maybe his leadership qualities will be valuable during a rebuild but in terms of on field contribution, I’m not confident we’ll get much value. Hope I’m wrong.

Fritsch stays. His form is horrible but he’s the only reliable goal kicker we have

We’re cooked. Well and truly. Expected a response. That was not acceptable It’s going to be a long season

We have some good young players. Langford and Lindsay. Kossie (if we can keep him), mcvee, Windsor. We have a top class recruiter. Time to trade out 1-2 top liners to bring in the picks. Trac the obvious option. He doesn’t want to be here anyways. Can’t wait until tassy come in. Worse time to bottom out. Has to be this trade period. And bring in a new voice to coach them. I’m very appreciative of goody but the MFC comes first.

We need a new coach. And best to move on some senior players to bring in some picks for JT to use

It’s the senior players letting us down here.