Lord Nev

Ah well. We all look silly on here every now and then, even you.

Yes. My opinion was somewhere around pick 15-20 would be the price. Hence why I'd love it if we ended up getting him for 27.

I hope we get it done for 27, but personally I think it's going to take a little more than that. We wait and see I guess.

And Grundy is a valuable player. Or are you saying GWS wouldn't do that deal?

Nah, heaps of options. 27 and future third, or even trade Bedford and 27 to GWS for 19 and 44, then offer 19 for Grundy.

Bedford and 27 for 19 and 44, then 19 for Grundy?

Yep, fair point, but Lamb also said they had no plans to use the two later picks so they weren't worth anything to us.

Trading 27 for 21 is the points equivalent of pick 58 and Lamb already publicly turned down pick 43 for Bedford, so reckon you're correct Luci.

Mate, go back and read my posts on this, particularly where I said: Absolutely there are plenty of examples of harm being done and exploitation in the name of religion, but this is just simply not the case for every single person who affiliates with such beliefs. I'm no fan of religion or churches, but to pain all with the same brush is cut and dry ignorance. Nowhere did I say my experience is universal, in fact I was saying the complete opposite of that.

It would be because the Dogs signed Liam Jones as a free agent wouldn't it? Compo cancels out.

No, you're just wrong. You have waved your hands around and made sweeping ignorant statements like you so often do, but you're wrong. It may be your experience, but it's not everyone's experience, but I know that's something you will never understand.

I grew up in the church, including time as a youth social worker with one. Both my parents spent their lives in social work through a religious organisation - they don't even own a house. I wager I know more about it than you and you're just further highlighting your ignorance.

This is absolute rubbish. It may be your experience; but to paint all with this brush is incredibly ignorant. I'm not religious in any way, but I know plenty of people who have spent their lives serving others through their church, religious organisation or just purely because that's how they decided to embody their beliefs - none of them are even remotely well off. Absolutely there are plenty of examples of harm being done and exploitation in the name of religion, but this is just simply not the case for every single person who affiliates with such beliefs. Just hyperbole and ridiculous generalisations, even by your standards.

This seemingly answers the question of if his personal beliefs would have influenced his decisions as Essendon CEO:

Bit of a different context being a Catholic, Muslim, whatever, in your personal life to being the chair of a church that says history will judge abortions like concentration camps.

Sure, but making those beliefs as public as he has will impact his suitability to lead organisations that put such a high premium on inclusiveness. Agree that there was a lack of due diligence there, although - wasn't he one of the people overseeing the review? Seems a bit like he might have put himself forward.

Find it more sad that a church will hound people for the way they were born, but each to their own I guess...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's not the audio, but fairly comprehensive coverage here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/854374/dees-wait-on-best-offer-for-wa-bound-ruck-shut-down-harmes-move

Absolutely. To be fair though, probably works in Essendon's favour if potential recruits don't meet Brad Scott...

I think he was away, it wasn't a making time thing. Might have heard that wrong though.

Lamb: “We have been able to do so by bundling three selections, including two that we did not intend to use at the National Draft this year."

Inside the top 25 is what's been reported, but was also reported they wanted 'one of the first round picks Melbourne would get in the Jackson trade'... So who knows what's accurate atm.