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  1. 22 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:


    missed a very gettable goal.

    but missed a gettable goal.
    but missed a very kickable goal.
    but only managed to hit the post.
    missed two consecutive snaps on goal.
    kicked it out on the full from deep in the pocket.
    missed a very gettable goal

    I'm sensing some kind of pattern here....


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  2. 3 minutes ago, Theo said:

    Whilst that link shows training times  for 18 Jan. the MFC website no longer has a link to future training sessions. The website seems to have changed this week with the drop-down info on training times no longer shown. I hope I'm wrong but the website has clearly changed this week.

    It's there, it's under the "Teams" tab.

  3. 14 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Yeah I agree.

    To be honest I don't have much of a gauge on Howes. I saw bits of him at Casey but that was after his serious leg injury which really put him on the back foot.

    I'm guessing he's training as a wingman? Still think he'd be more suited to that Jack Gunstn type role up forward.

    Wouldn't be surprised to see Howes play games early in the year (on the wing).

  4. 10 hours ago, bing181 said:

    No-one here is saying that they're happy with the way 2021 turned out. But winning back-to-back premierships is a near impossible task and you need a lot to go right - which for whatever reason wasn't the case last year. 

    Agree mate. Disagreements on reasons aside, let's hope we learned whatever we needed to and get another flag this year. Gotta make the most of the window we're in.

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  5. 2 hours ago, rjay said:

    You have consistently said you do...

    No I haven't. There's a difference between looking back at things in hindsight and seeing likely mistakes to saying any of us nuffies know better than the experienced professionals.

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  6. 36 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

    Saw a first (for me anyway). Clarry came off during one of the simulations. He was blowing a bit and was handed an inhaler. He had a couple of puffs and seemed fine. Is this usual for him?

    Guessing on this, but if he's asthmatic then due to the sudden temp change/storm last night it's close to the 'asthma storm' conditions they talk about so might have just been more prone to it.

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  7. 22 minutes ago, rjay said:

    I think you are both wrong.

    The FD has a much better idea of who is equiped to play.

    I don't think anyone has said they know better than the footy dept, but if you're happy with us falling apart as the year went on and getting bundled out in straight sets than you had lower expectations for 2022 than me.

    22 minutes ago, rjay said:

    On that senior list Brown, Baker, Weed, Dunstan, Tommo, Smith, & Melk, 3 have gone, one (Tommo) we couldn't move on and another (Smith) always injured.

     So? Hunt is gone too but we still played him.

    22 minutes ago, rjay said:

    As for mentioning Howes "Nev'...I don't get your point, he was injured.

    ...and they would likely have pulled the trigger on him as they did with disco if he wasn't.

     That's the point. You said only Bedford and Chandler were pushing for selection, that seems incorrect given the facts on who was listed in the emergencies, who was being talked about by the coaches and the fact Howes was inline to play the week he got injured.

    22 minutes ago, rjay said:

    So they weren't averse to playing kids but the kids had to be ready to go.

     Disagree. You seem to be one of the very very few here who think there were no issues with our management and selection last year. For mine, the fact we fell apart in the later part of the year was due to those factors. From my perspective, the issue was about managing our sore and injured players and perhaps trying to 'do a 2021' with the management when our injury situation and preparation were different to the previous year. It's not about blooding young players or bringing in someone who's banging the door down, it's about using the depth on your list to sufficiently fulfill our role based system in a way that allows our best players to perform at their capacity for more of the year and at key times. Now that seems to be where we disagree, which is fine, but again, given how our year played out I find it strange you can be so firm with your "you are both wrong".

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  8. 23 minutes ago, rjay said:

    There really weren't any walk up starts at Casey.

    Neither would have made a huge difference.

    But we didn't need 'walk up starts' or player to 'make a huge difference' we just needed good enough role players to allow us to manage injured players and compliment our 'difference makers' in players like Petracca, Oliver, May etc etc..

    23 minutes ago, rjay said:

    We had Brown, Baker, Weed, Dunstan, Tommo, Smith, Buntine, Munro, White & Melk...the AFL listed were all in the break glass in case of emergency category.

    Exactly. We had depth there that would have allowed us to manage players better.

    23 minutes ago, rjay said:

    Of our younger brigade only Chandler & Bedford were pushing.

    That doesn't seem correct. Howes was in line to debut before being unlucky with injury (I believe Richo confirmed this at one stage), JVR was obviously extremely close to selection given Goody talked about it, Laurie would have been around the mark as would have a few others given they were emergencies a few times if I recall correctly.

    23 minutes ago, rjay said:

    JVR wasn't ready. Wishing was never going to make it so...the club did the right thing long term in holding him back.

    He didn't need to come in and tear a game apart, he was just needed to come in and play a role given TMac was injured, Jackson was sore and out of form and Brown was on one leg, if that, and just nowhere near it. We already have the core talent, I don't understand why there seems to be this angle of having young/VFL players come in and 'make a huge difference'.

    Find it strange you seem to be labeling all these as correct decisions when we fell apart at the end of the year and went out in straight sets.

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  9. 55 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    It's actually not obvious at all, it's conjecture. There could be (and are) any number of reasons for our failures at the end of the season, many of which we're not even aware of.

    Like what? What would you suggest is more likely the reason?

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  10. 14 hours ago, bing181 said:

    The idea that we could have gone deeper in the finals playing the likes of Baker or Dunstan is just ...

    No one has suggested that, and most aren't talking about changing the team in the finals, more about gradually managing during the year.

    Gawn, Salem, Lever, Jackson, Brown and more clearly weren't right during the year. Literally no one has said drop them all for finals and bring in Dunstan and Baker. During the season however, it's pretty obvious it would have served us better to have gotten Brown right, bring in JVR or Weid really we would have not lost anything given how hampered and out of form Brown was. Rotate the rest through for rests, that's the whole point in having more than 22 players on the list. Take out one of Gawn or Jackson and bring in Weid, take out Lever and bring in Tomlinson (or Turner pre-injury), Bowey for Salem etc etc, there were so many options there that could have meant more rotation of players.

    I mean, if we weren't playing banged up players then what's the reason for our season falling in a heap? Yes, the whole 'Goody's faves' thing gets overdone, and not a season goes by without selection whinges from Demonland, but the management of the players and failure to rotate them when we had the chance is so obviously the reason for our failure in finals and I hope lessons have been learned and the balance is better this year if we go through a similar situation.


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  11. 59 minutes ago, old55 said:

    I'm well known as a long term supporter of Simon Goodwin so the current Board has very significant capital in the bank with me when they resisted Glenn Bartlett's attempts to get rid of him, resulting in the 2021 flag that I believed was possible.  But through this whole recent saga a significant amount of that capital has been eroded.

    My understanding of the course of events you refer to above is as following ...

    Peter Lawrence stood for Board election and I think rightly came away believing that the communication opportunities and therefore chances of candidates supported by the existing Board were far greater than those of other regular candidates whose communications with members were severely restricted.

    As a result he worked with a leading law firm King Wood Mallesons to re-draft the Club's Constitution to make it more democratic.  The changes proposed read very reasonably to me and the process he engaged in was very thorough.  He requested that the club email this proposed re-draft to club members and the Board refused to do so.  Reasonable proposed changes from a thoroughly reputable source.  I think the Board made a mistake.

    Lawrence then requested club members' email addresses so he could do the mail out himself.  The Board again refused - second mistake. 

    Lawrence believed his position was sound and took the club to court to fairly obtain the email addresses.  His position was vindicated by the court and he was awarded costs. Third Board mistake.

    Now the club refuses to take Lawrence's money, fourth mistake - hell, they could at least take it to recoup the court costs they unnecessarily burnt.

    We disagree both on the points and these 'facts' you've posted.

    Let's just move one as this thread seems to just continually reverse over the same things over and over.


  12. 3 minutes ago, Hawk the Demon said:

    Demonland lets you continue with your contributions......no persona non grata approach there....

    Pretty sure if I took Demonland to court to get all the personal details of every member here then I may have trouble logging in the following day, but ok.

    Any progress on that transparency from Deemocracy yet by the way?

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  13. 4 minutes ago, Hawk the Demon said:

    Don't think that rule exists. Seems that he has retreated to the Deemocracy camp and wants the Board to conduct open, fair and transaparent elections - heaven forbid. That website has been rejuvenated - see www.deemocracy.com.

    It seems just a group of anonymous trouble makers rocking the boat. Yuck.

    You're a member of 'Deemocracy' yes? It certainly appears the website copy seems to almost exactly mirror your exact talking points. I mean, you do say this is all about transparency...

  14. 46 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    So, Roffey, Rennick and Kendall are already Directors seeking re-election. That means Reed and McCoy are attempting to join from the outside. The one name I was expecting to see, but it's not there, is Peter Lawrence. Has he given up or is there a rule that prevents an unsuccessful candidate from re-nominating at the next or subsequent elections?

    Personal opinion - But I think given the backlash he received from supporters after the whole contact details saga; he decided he may not get much support.

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  15. 25 minutes ago, A F said:

    I don't necessarily have a problem with Roffey, but not sure anyone could say Demon through and through. Like the last President, she recently became a Melbourne supporter...

    This is incorrect. Kate has said she chose to support Melbourne when she first moved here from regional NSW to take the role at VicSport. That was in 2004.

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  16. 23 minutes ago, Mincho Mania said:

    Freo have gone public saying we under-utilized him as a forward and they have the magic beans to turn him in to Tom Lynch.

    Personally, I think they're dreaming.

    They also said they had him down for a 'unique midfield role'.

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  17. 1 hour ago, binman said:

    Now that he is left, i feel strangely more comfortable knocking Jackson. 

    But now he is freo player i can say JACKSON IS MILES OFF BEING A GENUINE FORWARD. 

    There are a number of reason why, for example he has no idea about leading patters it would appear. But his biggest issue is he doesn't use his body like a real forward the way Tmac and Fritter do. Doesn't seem able to protect the drop zone and often jumps straight up like the basketballer he is - which might be a factor in why he double grabs so often.

    He'll no doubt improve his forward craft - he's a kid still after all (and a supremely talented one at that) - but he is well behind the eight ball given those skills are not instinctive.

    By way of comparison, when i first saw Fritter play for Casey, the thing that jumped out straight away was how well he used his body and how natural a forward he was.  Those skills immediately translated to the AFL level. 

    Just a thought - Maybe he won't be played as a forward anymore...


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