Sorry kids

Hey, Bucky,

Who exactly has us as over rated? We came 17th. However I agree with most of your assessment. Maybe a dozen competent to very good AFL standard players as it stands now. 

13 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Strange as it may seem, I was just reading this profile about him from respected draft watcher Knightmare and I like what I’m reading. He’s the grandson of Michael Green, former Tiger premiership ruckman who studied law with me at Melbourne Uni. 

AFL Draft Wrap: Shades of Patrick Cripps in GWS academy prospect Thomas Green

“Green possesses an imposing physical profile at 190cm, 88kg and provides a similar impact around the ball to Patrick Cripps.” 

Just wondering if there’s any vision around because it would be tempting to have a crack at this bloke?

Micheal Green married a Sierakowski to add to the pedigree. Quality people to go with the physique, maturity and ability. Take him

I think Shaun played in some Ted Whitten legends game/s long after his playing days. I wonder if his issue was know at the time. 

Yes, get.

Demnonlanders could you do me a favour and keep an eye on Moonshadow. He is not himself lately. The way he is carrying on you would like I was Inspector Clouseau and just took his job. One minute he is telling me to pull my head in in anger, second warning, the next he is praying to God for help. Poor soul. Anyone know if he goes to Goschs Paddock for training?

21 minutes ago, demonzz said:

The article is from the show last night. Shaun smith, Barnes  and a couple  of rugby players who are fu,,,ed up due to concussion. 

 

Cheers, Yeah ok. I was commenting on Joel Smith, as per thread until it crossed to Shauns case. apologies, yes a complicated one for Shaun.

6 minutes ago, demonzz said:

The article is from the show last night. Shaun smith, Barnes  and a couple  of rugby players who are fu,,,ed up due to concussion. 

 

Cheers, Yeah ok. I was commenting on Joel Smith, as per thread until it crossed to Shauns case. apologies, yes a complicated one for Shaun.

1 minute ago, demonzz said:

Mate if you watched Insight last night you would realize  it is a very complicated case. The bloke nearly jumped in front of a train at richmond station FFS. The multiple concussions have changed his whole personality. Fighting with friends is just one small part of it.

Just to be clear, are you talking Joel or Shaun Smith.

18 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Read the article instead of making ill informed, superficial comments. He and his docs would have a better knowledge of his condition than you. Pull your head in (again).

Head still in its place. Kindly tell me where this article is Moondog.

7 minutes ago, BAMF said:

It doesn't.

Plus I can't see any pictures on his insta from the gym

9 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Read the article instead of making ill informed, superficial comments. He and his docs would have a better knowledge of his condition than you. Pull your head in (again).

Where is the article you reference talking about the condition that causes him to fight his mates Moon

2 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

um no, um yes, um i don''t know what you're getting at.

5 minutes ago, The Chazz said:

Pretty easy to make sense of - you think he has AFL qualities, and I don't.  Not sure why the confusion.

I feel the same way about Smith as I do both Wagners.  If they play regular senior footy in 2020, we're clearly bottom 4 material again.

Binman, you really need to raise your standards.

I am in the edge with Smith. Think it may come down to coaching and finding a position. Its no good tying a whole lot of positions for someone who has come to the game late in life. Keep it simple. Backline-spoil. Forward line-strong leads,go for your marks, bring ball to ground. Work hard on kicking skills.

1 minute ago, Engorged Onion said:

my you are provactive....

Did you bring my bins in today?

9 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Only so much you can do when you're the 17th placed team who trains in a dog park, shares the showers with a few other teams and hasn't won a flag for 55 years I guess...

All we can do I guess is aim for minimum 6 upgrades on last years list.

So far

PRO    Tomlinson

Cons  Frost

8 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

The Shaun Smith concussion article in the other thread may give a clue as to why he is spontaneous in thought and action.

“I’ve had a couple of blues with friends, punched on — I’m not a fighter. It’s cost me a friendship just recently. I’m ashamed of it, I just can’t control my anger. You become very impulsive, make some very poor decisions.”
 

Plenty of blokes fight with friends. Its not a symptom of concussion unless its a very complicated case

Give him some mid time and Casey. Work him hard, run,run,run.  See if he is super committed

22 minutes ago, A F said:

Probably because even if you had just said 'hi', everyone would expect, with your sunny disposition and outlook on all things MFC, that you would likely say 'Melbourne are [censored] and the sky is falling'. 

Makes you sound silly and unable to follow a conversation

1 hour ago, Yung Blood said:

Yeah and he clearly doesn't. Anyone who's been within an inch of the club would know how much Angus enjoys playing with this group. He has many close mates and is part of a young midfield with loads of potential.

I don't understand why these rumours pop up and linger even after Freo have said theirs no interested (you assume they mean currently or aren't willing to give up whats required for him). But also the club displayed any desire to trade him either. Viney, Brayshaw, Oliver and Harmes are our midfield group all 25 or under yet to hit their prime. You would be stupid to make a rash supposed "bold" or "ruthless" trade to break up a group that has developed with loads of potential just because they had one off season overall.

 

Not sure why you are replying to me. i did not say he wants out. 

8 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

If this trade gets done, this would be the club being ruthless* right ? We want the club to be ruthless right? But only if ruthlessness aligns with what I the poster thinks is right, right?

 

 

*as well as the duality of meeting Angus's needs with a compassionate course of action.

No, It would be done because Angus wants out.

Needs to be able to take the opposition second best forward at his size.

1 minute ago, Fifty-5 said:

 

But according to you Elliott would have been downgrading. Downgrading from something you have no interest in apparently.

You seem to find it impossible to sustain an idea from post to post.

On ignore. Finish your dinner, Go back to your homework.

35 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

But our according to you our facilities are relatively poor - relative to what? Make up your mind.

That would have been, I am not interested in what facilities other Clubs have. Pathetic.

25 minutes ago, A F said:

What are you talking about? How much did Collingwood pay for Treloar? Essendon for Shiel and Richmond for Prestia?

Strawman argument.

I am not interested in what other Clubs do. 

23 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Just trying to be positive, rather wallow in constant negativity. So we have terrible facilities, terrible players, and can't do anything right. Got it.

Carry on!

I admire you being positive. I went to games for decades, literally, thinking we were a chance to win every week. However the Club needs to be entirely and brutally honest with where they are at as of now. None of us really know what next year will bring on the field but we can control things like our environment, facilities, coaching personal and so on. All of those things must be open to scrutiny just like most of us and most organizations have to deal with on a constant basis. 

15 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Not having a crack, not being a defeatist either.

You think Elliot didn't come to us because of Goschs?

I'd say he was always going to stay or go to Brisbane, where he spent his youth and where his bro lives. Also probably because we might be outbid in terms of amount per year.

Our facilities aren't the best, but they haven't deterred May, Lever, Hibberd, Melk, Tomlinson or Langdon

It is not an absolute, he would be very familiar with our facilities, why would he downgrade?  People only do that for money. Obviously when you have 12 or more million dollars each year to pay players you are going to attract some players. Hardly an exciting list of recruits over 5 or more years. One flag between them. Best and fairests? 

28 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Yet Collingwood won a flag out of Goschs in 2010. Go figure!

10 years on a new generation of players and an arms race in facilities mean it is not acceptable or AFL standard. Honestly you are just having a crack, if you cannot agree our facilities are sub standard for the multi billion dollar industry we compete in.