MurDoc516

I'm sorry but i'll lose serious faith in the club if we trade him for one [censored] first round pick. We paid two to get him and we should demand two high picks in return. I'm happy to get one pick now and one in the future to help us secure any future deals, but i'd spit chips if we gave him up for one first rounder. His stats for his age are on par with Josh Kennedy ffs. The way i see it is we are getting two first rounders and one of them will go to the suns for May. What we do with the other pick is anyone's guess. I'd like to make a play for Sam Walsh but he's like a no.1 pick. The King brothers are the high prospect talls in the draft.

Kent could fit in Hogan's suitcase or maybe we could agree to trade hogan and send Kent over with a Hogan mask instead.

AVB and JKH are surely getting new deals. Kent might want to leave.

How good is May? like he plays for a [censored] team so you can't judge him. However he is talked of highly by media pundits. Lloyd dropped a line that if May came in (Assuming we kept Hogan) surely we'd be one of the favourites for next season. Now Lloyd is known for his outlandish statements but as i don't know much about May and his ability i can't tell if it's bat [censored] insane talk or just a super early call.

two first rounds minimum or a 1rd now and future first round next season which gives us two to go after Kelly.

Preuss must be a done deal then. Also was Bugg out of contract? shame we couldn't get trade value from him.

Read the articles out there. All looking into things and taking words and spinning them. Jesse isn't leaving

Even though i don't rate north players because i hate all of them your still picking out two spuds and forgetting Brown, Higgins, Ziebell etc. Richmond players are taking unders. Riewoldt, Cotchin and Rance took a pay cut to keep Dusty and make room for Lynch. Ain't nobody at North taking a pay cut to secure anyone when all the news out there is that they have room to spare.

On field attitude? duh [censored]. Goal kicking accuracy? fixable and still one of the better kicks in the league performances against top teams? better teams and better defences double teaming a 23 year old forward hmmm

Is this the steven may thread or the preuss thread? Just saying it was confirmed we sat down with May. It's still looking like he is our 4th or 5th target on the wishlist aka not happening.

Surely he ain't coming to play VFL again so i think we are going two rucks. More time for Maxy to go forward or down back. Weid, ANB or Tyson drop out for me to make room for Preuss. Don't forget Hogan and Lever will be back in aswell.

Jones and Neal-Bullen stole votes off Clarry and Gawn

I really doubt Gaff is heading to the Dee's. I wouldn't be against bringing a good player to the club, but i don't see the logic in chasing an older mid when a younger one who is as good already will be available next season.

While i think we do need an outside player, i'd still question our key defenders. Oscar is still developing and Frost has proven handy, but both got dismantled with ease the other day. While you can say our midfield got smashed a lot of one on ones weren't close.

GWS ain't gonna trade Kelly this season. They're doing everything possible right now to free up cap space to try and keep him at the club. I still think we are the top of the list right now. North are paying everybody a million backs and will surely be out of space by next season. We know via PJ that we have room for a big player if he wanted to come, the problem is our position in the draft. When Kelly becomes available next season does everyone think a first rounder and future first rounder will be enough? i think the deal will be a lot more complex.

I don't know about anyone else but i find that i get less angry or biased when sitting next to someone that i can talk to about the game. I was at my brothers house (He's an eagle supporter) watching the game and while everything was unfolding he could see the things that i was saying. If i was alone without anyone to share my thoughts with i'd probably be fuming and as angry as anyone that we played in a way that was reminiscent of the times we thought gone. Yet i can sit here now and say i've not lost faith in anyone and i'm sure all the guys will learn from this experience and while we might not win it next year either, i'm sure we will compete.

He is out of contract at end of next season and he wanted to leave last time his contract was up. If he wants to stay now then so be it but if he still wants out we should be making moves.

Not even angry because i was proud to be in a prelim. Let's learn from it and push forwards.

Giants are only going to accept a decent offer. They made him open to offers, so bascially whoever is the most desperate (Freo, GCS, Carlton) can offer early 2nd round picks and get him if GWS can't offload 2 of Scully, Lobbe or Shiel. As a player i don't know much about. I saw a GWS fan saying he needs to put on some muscle if he wants to be a proper one on one defender. Sounds a bit like Oscar with the bonus of pace like Frost.

Kelly was pushing for an exit and only signed a bumper deal instead of the proposed long term deal. He wants to come home to Melbourne, Scully on the other hand is more being pushed out so GWS can keep their other stars just like Shiel was.

Tyson isn't as bad as people make it seem. Like i said Fritsch was guilty of blazing away and not picking out a target.

Big news. If Shiels stays Kelly or Scully needs to leave to fix cap issues. Kelly dream alive boys.

Nothing major is really lost. Fritsch hasn't exactly been amazing and probably quilty of blazing away last two games. If this allows Hibbo to be the intercept mark then that's okay.

I'm just saying if i was an ump and the crowd kept booing me it wouldn't make me favour them. Maybe that's the kind of person i am.

The logic is based on performance. I think we played better 4qtrs vs the cats and i think Hawks played better against the tigers than what we both dished up on Friday. Again King isn't saying we are trash or didn't deserve to win. He makes note of the first half, not the second. Coming off the ground Lewis said we played [censored] at half time. Full time PJ himself said we didn't play great. Let's just be happy we beat a team that belted us by 60 this year and has beaten us 15 of the last 16 times by 33 points in a big final while not at our best.