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I am ordinarily against a co-captain model but, in this case, it would be befitting for Jones to retain a part of the captaincy so that he might be the one to raise the cup should we achieve the ultimate victory. To deny him the possibility of this major honor would be intolerable given his dedication, service and leadership over the bad years. No one in our history (other than Robbie) would deserve this more. Viney (or whoever) can then focus on their own games and provide the lift in spirit when needed. We should actively seek and develop multiple leaders who can provide dynamic on field leadership and/or cool heads and on field direction.

Can anyone say for certain that Tracca is not training to the seemingly "Maxie level" demanded by the commentators here?. What if he is and this is what maximum Tracca looks like or what if he is training to the level required by the FD for HF flanker and part time midfielder or what if he straightened his kicking and kicked 30 a year and dished off many more? He fills a valuable and vital role and, let's face it, not everyone can be a dashing Brayshaw or a ball magnet Oliver.

To Jane02 Get a grip. To risk missing a possible demons GF just for work is unconscionable. Change job or tell the conference that you know it all and it's not worth attending and get someone else to take good notes.

Incremental improvement will do.

Maxie is Maxie, Tracca is Tracca and Garry is just an opinion these days. I am unaware of any real evidence that Tracca is not trying 100%. Just because he looks less urgent doesn't mean he is. Apart from 42 shots at goals in 2018 does anyone know how many he dished off eg. Jones goal early in the last quarter against cats, pass to TMac near goal square in one of the finals? Quick possessions, good decision making and makes a great contribution. Let him play his game, not ours. 2020 (magic in numbers - 1+9+6+4 = 20) Go dees

2020. Go dees.

Footy is always about possession and territory. Those teams who can win the ball and maximise territory gain will ultimately prevail so long as they can retain possession where it counts in the forward line. Our problem in the past has been that, notwithstanding a majority of forward entries (i50s), we have not been able to retain possession and score often enough due to our inablity to retain possession and defend quick exits. Getting the ball through the midfield to the forward line has not been the problem. So, in order to improve, we must keep the ball inside 50 for longer periods and develop methods to score from those opportunities. One way to keep the ball in the forward line is to deliver the ball with more precision to a teammate. Weagles showed us up badly in the PF by their ability to deliver precisely. Another way is to deliver the ball quickly and deeply into the forward line and then hold it in, the so called manic/chaos theory. Players like Frost and Hunt who have both mongrel and pace can carry the ball through the midfield and deliver it deep. Tracca, AVB, Jones and others can then hold it in to create scoring opportunities. Both game plans have merit but require a mix of players who can rotate through the wings eg Frost, Hunt, Salem, Stretch, maybe KK, Fritsch, Hannan and perhaps more as 2019 proceeds. Speed is good but let's not get fixated on one plan and one style. If speedy wingers are available to be drafted, then good. If not, than let's adopt a different plan for success. We have the players for both and a coaching panel that can modify its plan to suit the players we have. Go dees, 2020.

TMac, OMac.

Please, no more snide comments about Jesse. As supporters, we invested far too much in his ability to score goals when his real talent lay elsewhere. He was an outstanding champion of our club and deserves to be remembered fondly. For various team management and balance reasons, he was never allowed to reach his full potential. His real talent was up the field as a running CHF where his ability to read the play and get to a contest, win the ball in the air and on the ground and dispose to the best position was second to none for a 193 player. There was even a post that suggested that he play CHB. He would have excelled in this position and, if the trade had not occurred, it was a viable option. We should thank Jesse for his contribution and wish him well at the dockers.

Does this imply that there was no learning of his craft at kangas? Or Goldy too dominant/precious?

Jesse was going anyway this year or next. Letting him go this year for trades to acquire established seasoned players was smart. It is not certain that even a first round draft pick next year for Jesse would have been better. Our record shows that, while Jesse was a real contributor to high goal scoring, we scored highly and won many games without him - think weagles, GWS, cats and dorks this year. Bringing in a gorilla minder to stiffen up a backline with stoppers such as Jetts and OMac and running attacking players such as Hibbo, Frosty, Jades, Sales, Leaves shows strategic planning. May was not my preferred choice but he was selected to plug a hole and play a role. If he does his job, we might stop the leaking and, together with any goals scored by Jesse's replacement, break even on goals. As weagles showed this year, two ruckmen are better than one if used intelligently. Highlights of Preuss show a big, strong, mobile, marking ruckman who can score goals. Imagine Maxie patrolling the backline and Preuss frightening the opposition in the forward line. If this can be pulled off it could be the master stroke of the decade. Wallace is a blunt, soft, broken tool.

Let's wish them all a speedy and permanent recovery.

How about Frost. Tall, strong, can mark, kicks long to position (ask TMac) and runs away from just about anyone. Use him as a target on the way out and as a weapon on the way in. For those who remember, Richo starred on the wing and, going further back, the toiges used Bourke and Clay, who both played key defence, as wingmen in their heyday. What a mismatch. Who would want to tag him? Who could keep up in space? Easy to train and coach. Just tell him to run as hard as he can at the ball and then with the ball.

Wayne Harmes and Dom Sheed - just 2 few of their tormentors. Life can be so sweet.

I take it this comment is about the self serving, self promoting and self aggrandising quizmaster and flooffy show host. There is no way the filth are entitled to any consideration. Unless they play a weakened sainters or weak bombers, having the filth in a granny is unfair to the other 16 teams as their opponents are almost assured of a flag. Colliwobbles are back (perhaps never left).

Weagles style is based on their resources - a plentiful supply of strong, one grab marking talls such as Kennedy, Darling, Vardy, Barrass, McGovern. Kennedy, Darling and LeCras have been the mainstay of their forward line for many years and they have had a well established and experienced core for the same time. In time, we will develop a game style based on our resources - a strong midfield and strong marking forwards and backs. When we can regularly and consistently emulate their organised supply to their key forwards, so as to take advantage of our regular dominance of inside 50s, then we will flourish. It takes time. With a least seven changes to our squad there is scope for major improvement. 2020. Go dees.

Yes. The Spargo who kicked two goals and had seven score involvements in a final including several handpasses and short passes that led directly to goals.

Umpires are close to the action and have the best view of who is working hard and succeeding. They have shown a clear preference in recent years for players who are highly visible and who run hard, collect the ball and deliver to advantage by kicking. Describes Angus perfectly. Clarrie's inside work is too fast and too subtle for easy comprehension. For example, everyone has lauded Jake M for the goal against dorks but Clarrie's role in contesting the loose ball in the centre, winning the ball against 2 opponents and then delivering to a free Angus has been overlooked. Without Clarrie, the opportunity might not have been there. Angus's run and kick and Jake's goal will win votes but not Clarrie's work to win the ball. With respect, others such as Salem and Hannan, could have successfully substituted for Angus and Jake 's. But who could substitute for Clarrie? No one. He's unique and special. And too good to ever poll well in the Brownlow.

Who cares? Caro has been around too long and will not make us better. Bartlett will.

Weideman - showed real potential Spargo - uses ball well vandenBerg - needs pre season

Nathan Jones needs a new role. He has earned the right to be indulged a bit so long as he contributes and he is not keeping any one out. His best position is still inside mid to hold the ball in but he is being denied the role. Maybe others should be trained to play his outside role that is more natural for them. I see Harmes and Brayshaw with the right attributes. FD better think hard.

A game plan built around the sum of the individual abilities of available players is the key to being competitive. A game plan that can be readily overwhelmed like today is not a good game plan. The boys tried as hard as they could but were beaten by a better prepared team that had worked out how to stymie our strengths and frustrate our game style. Foot passes went nowhere, handpasses were sloppy and chopped. That Kennedy and Darling had so much space to lead was because we were spread too wide. They did to us what we have done to others - smothered our play in the first half. We'll learn. The coaches have a lot of thinking to do. 2020. Go dees.

2020. All of this is preparation. Go dees.

Peanuts, peanuts, shilling a bag, peanuts. He was at every game at the MCG. The old guy with his sack of pre packaged bags. Even to this day, whenever I say peanuts, this refrain comes back to me. And I never bought any.

Deduct the score during the period when 19 were on the ground. Given that it was at the start of the quarter the time and score should be easy to deduce. Simple, fair and just. Tough on North Adelaide but it's the integrity of the game that counts, not the feelings of club. And who was the match steward? If appointed by SANFL then easier to adjudicate. A free kick and 50m against the SANFL.