leave it to deever

Thanks Dwa. I appreciate the respectful tone. Calling someone's opinion trash without offering any argument as to why, isnt banter fgs. Heaven help the person on the train next to you engaged in some chit chat . So you can't just put this on me by following up with that I need to be able to take some. It was poor form on your behalf, not mine. If anything this inference is a projection on your behalf as shown by your original response. My basis wasn't just on the win loss ratio which must hold some bearing ( I mean it's the whole basis for who plays finals). It was also based on their % and the actual teams they have beaten (only one in the top 8 which is us). And Im sure we can both agree regardless of reasons, the Mfc hasnt been playing its best). Ok so Freo have had some recent form (not a great deal if we acknowledge our team is down on it), but I still believe they are an average team with some good young talent. Also their win against the cats isn't that outstanding given the cats midfield was decimated by injuries. Their swans win, was their best at the scg but it also seems that the Swans like us, have been in a bigger rut. Everyone pretty much agrees the comp is tight this year. Average teams can play good footy. Bad teams can upset good teams. Top teams can play poorly at times. Even if they have had a spike of good form lately and appear to be trending upward , one must look at all games. We will both know more at the end of the year obviously. If they make finals will you then claim they are a good side?I'm sure you would. Because they have beaten enough sides. So at the end of the day, or season to be more precise, what determines a good side is points and % is the sole criteria. Some clubs have tough draws but I don't think Freo does. Also Freo have had a fair run regarding injuries and are currently leading the "least injuries list" with only 2 players listed as injuries at present. You claim my logic is flawed but let's both just be honest, I am the only one who has detailed any. Your 2nd post, may be less insulting, but again does nothing to back up your opinion. You have just simply not in any post given one reason to refute my claim that I don't believe Freo are a good side. I'm sure your an intelligent person, so you must admit that his is so, no matter how (at this point) you FEEL that they are. Just saying. Have a good day and enjoy our win this weekend.

Actually, I always wanted a tarantula SLR 5000.

Ah the panel van Halen. Always wanted one.

I see BBO as a segway guy.

I think this is quite realistic. Maybe we are good chance against St kilda. That's 15 wins if we roll them. Enough for a top 4 berth with our %. Lucky we have a good draw 2nd time play wise. I'd like to think we could beat the crows because although this analysis gives us a shot at top 4, it exposes us as really only competitive against non contenders.

Hopefully we bounce back after two losses. Our fwd line worries me still. Need to change something. I'd drop Tmac for any of the talls in reserve. Jvr is bound to start marking a few from those leaps/ crashes. I keep waiting for our small brigade to cause mayhem. Is this the round? We will rally and put us back in the winning column. Just can't afford to drop another game. Simple.

Good post JNM. It's my experience, ( and I like to think I have some life experience in middle age after raising a family, battling chronic health issues, losing loved ones, forging a career, community work , building a home etc) that like any team, this site has the proverbial supreme. There are certainly posters who will often shoot terse responses to other posters solely for the reason it gives their small life a modicum of self esteem. Some people are naturally ill tempered and not self reflective so as they may grow and experience life to its fullest. Too small minded or disgruntled in their own personal lives to stop and think that at the other end of their brief serve is another human being. A mother, father, sister, brother who may even be going or gone through things that would crush the other. Think Donald J Trump as the ultimate example. It's a website of differing emotions and ways of seeing the world. I'd wager the people that shoot terse posts are in reality miserable SOBs that get a ridiculous kick out of putting others down. Or the sniper who constantly has a crack at someone via a negative Emoji. OH Bravo to you sir or madam. Well played. Smile and move on, I say. Laugh in the knowledge of what they are and what your not. Or at least grown out of. Or trying too. ( Emphasis on growth) My dear late Father would ask ..What did you learn today? My mother, what did you learn about yourself?. Life is too short to sweat the ill temper in it. As sweet as it is, it is but a vapor. Go Dees.

On Kayo, it sounded like there were more Freo supporters at times. The G advantage isn't all it's cracked up to be. Not just the crowd factor.

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I'm welcome to have my opinion on Freo bring a good or average side. I can only base this on the season's results thus far. Their position on the ladder....outside the 8 and a % lower then some sides below them and the few teams they have beaten ....yes in the games I have watched , including North. ( have you?). And of course DemonWA, you are well entitled to believe otherwise based on their recent better form, I suppose. That aside, having a different opinion doesn't give you the prerogative to call my opinion trash. More so when my mine is based on incontrovertible facts and not mere opinion like yours. There have to be some metrics in determining what constitutes a good side. Most people would accept the ones I offered above to the subjective knee jerk opinion of yours. The truth is, your post is incredibly juvenile. Best of luck in life.

So much for the tiges causing an upset.

Wot a load of dribble You a33hat

Pfffg. ..As if my wedding date would stop me from going to a game. And you call yourself a passionate supporter.

Well this thread didn't age well.

Love your passion Layzie. There are some eggheads here you wouldn't want to be stuck in a lift with but that what makes this wonderful world go around. What is really annoying is those who vent by paying out on other posters. I'll never name names and I like to think I'm somewhat respectful but I forget that this microcosm has others who don't give a rats. Go you good Dees.

I think it's a mute point. We don't have the depth to be able to drop players anyway.

Just watched a some " highlights". That free to Amiss against May in the first was one of the worst decisions I have seen this year . And I've seen a few. Fgs, Maysie was standing still, Amiss jumps on his back way too early and somehow he gets the free. It's like the umps are making it up as they go along sometimes.

Spargo has been a favourite of mine since he started. A clever user of the ball and timely goalsneak. I do think at this point, he just doesn't get enough of the pill.

Our forward line needs to be a priority imho.

I've been thinking about the travel requirements of interstate clubs and the advantages of home crowds. I said home crowds rather than home games because I think there is a big difference. Last week against Power at their HG it was a full house in a small ground. I think the players and umps hear a lot more noise than our HG. We lose advantage at the G because it's a 100k ground and we sometimes don't fill a quarter of it. The noise factor isn't there. Also there are more supporters of interstate sides living in Melbourne than Dees fans in Pert or Adelaide. Also, interstate sides are more familiar playing at the G than we are at Gabba or Optus eg. Just saying.

The Irony being that we were the only team likely to beat the cats given we were in their heads Rent free from 21.

Our forward line really crumbled after Tmac was injured last year and has remained pretty much broken up to now. A lot needs to align for a flag and clearly a lot more for subsequent ones. This is history unfolding before us. Not many clubs win back to back or the 2nd year after. It gives me new respect for teams like the lions winning 3 in a row. The comp was more uneven back then but it's an incredible ammount of team inertia and passion.

Sadly for me, I thought that when their prime ruck went off the ground we would walk home against their 2nd in Jackson. So much for "booing him."

Ironically it will probably be us do beat them on Kb. Don't ask me why.

Yep. Now that, I've accepted this, as painful as it is, it helps. Collingwood is the new 21 us. I kinda got this feeling about we we sit, against the Suns game. I just hope that despite dropping games to lower sides on our home ground, we take a few scalps as well. I think we might scrape into the top 4 on%. Notwithstanding the Pies, it is a tight competition. Really lamenting the squandered opportunity of last years chance. It didn't phase me as much then, because I was still high on the flag fumes. Maybe the players were as well. It happens.