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Nah, he's a dud fair dinkum, when will some people get a clue. I think dunn has great potential but i must admit i'm worried. I think my worry will ease as he gets more game time and settles into one position/role I'm one of the "i don't know why dunn moved from the forwardline" people and still think he may play his best footy there, but obviously has the motor and commitment to go with players. Should be an interesting player to watch

How in the world is this the truth? You've got to back it up if you'll claim something like that. By the way i'm glad i wasn't nuts and that other people respect the work she does in AFL

Agreed. I feel our club can make the most of splitting the home games (if it comes to that) if we are able to broker a deal. I think we can build the blockbuster into a bigger spectacle by allowing collingwood members free entry (whilst it hurts us, i think it would build the game) and i would only be happy if we were able to; be compensated, given an extra 'G match and promised the game would remain. I think our club can benefit from whatever QB situation that arises, i just want us to be proactive, which i think we will be. But we must present as a strong board that stands for a club deserving of such things. But you're spot on, any help from the AFL must not be met with blind eyes

How much extra money does QB bring us? Is it around half a mil? What if the AFL said we'll give them next year as a home game, but will not decrease the amount of money being given to the MFC (which is happening next year), as well as giving us an extra home game at the G to make up for it, would you consider that?

I really don't think this is getting very far, but oh well We both know the AFL schedules games unfairly. You have stated it, and we all understand it. I don't think this can be changed while Vlad is in charge of the AFL with his arrogance and derogatory nature. Therefore i think our club has to look at other options. I'd love to have the annual home game agaisnt Collingwood, but so would every club. Every club will be asking for a home game versus the filth (which, if the AFL had integrity they would ignore) and as such, we have been lucky to get the last 8. But we cannot bury our head in the sand and hope that QB will stay with us forever. Whilst we may fight to keep it, and it does give us a lot of money, i don't see how losing it will be an unsurmountable outcome, and if it is, we'll surely go under anyway. We are going to have to look at options that will get our numbers up at each and every game we play. I think QB is largely irrelevant to fans of other teams, and i think this is due in part to it being seen as a form of charity. Many people look and see that it is always a Melbourne game to give us the takings at the gate. We need to establish a brand in our club that goes over and above QB. We should look at what the AFL could offer us from alternating the home game, if it's not enough, then we should rightly fight for it. But i don't see how we're in a position to be pig-headed and claim it annually. I agree it'd be entirely fair for us to get it every year as a home game given their draw, but i also see that there's a posibility for growth if we alternate and find another route. If our survival depends on keeping QB, one game a year, then our club is near over the cliff. We should establish ourself as a club that DESERVES blockbusters, not gets them handed out That would offer a lot more help to our club i believe, but yes obviously i don't think we should give it up unless we are able to grab some sort of advantage for our own club

Clearly beer drinking contests were my business plan and you just ruined it... QBW is not the be all and end all. It is an important money giver to the club on an annual basis, but even then we are in trouble as you say. A bigger problem i believe is that many supporters make this their "One game a year i'll go to" because it's our marquee game. I wonder if this hurts the club at all, but it's an observation and obviously not statistically based. Further to this though is the probable reality that if we don't do this, we may lose QBW altogether, so it makes much more sense to bargain. We could probably pertition to the AFL for extra compensation due to the lost funds if this eventuates, and could even ask for a second Pies game in years where QB is their home game, thus lowering the blow. I think switching home games is inevitable, and we may as well think of how the club can get around it, rather than sit around bemoaning its loss, telling the club to fight it against a team that doesn't care if it has it or not. I think we must be reasonable and negotiate well, but also look to how we can lesser the impact of this one match on our season And no, i am not on the stynes ticket, genius comment though. I would hope that stynes does not solely put his hopes on the qb. How is it a financial wreck to build the reputation and stature of the club by making our name bigger? On a side note, i wonder if qb has been hurt by consistently been given as a home game for us. It sort of gives it a sense of charity that a blockbuster should not have. If it gets 80 thou next yeah i guarantee it'll be widely known as a blockbuster. It got 71 thou last year when we were rubbish. I hope a new board would build the club in it's own right, and hopefully build up other games, like against the tigers, that are being left out

haha fixed

Rhino, i see what you mean, but we would still have the game every second year, and we would still keep a spot in the Blockbuster. Does anyone care if it's Ess' or Coll's home ground on ANZAC day? The build up is the same, we can still show off our club in front of a large audience (possibly larger as more Coll would go) Furthermore, it gives us one extra away game at the G, allowing us a chance at grabbing an extra one. If we do it properly, we can maintain the importance of our involvement in QB and build our name into something that will draw at least an extra 5000 to each game per year. If we do that, it'll add at least 60,000 to our annual total, as well as building our reputation. Alternating home matches makes sense, and could be the only way we can keep the game

Exactly, hence lowering the necessity for QB to be a 70 thou + crowd (which it wasn't this year anyway) I was saying this in return to people saying we're now in financial trouble because it won't be a home game, but i see it as a positive in that the club will now move on other ideas to build each game we play. Themed rounds, history rounds, march to the g, kicking comps on Gosch's with some other players, beer drinking contests with past players, who knows. I think the club understands this and is working towards it.

That doesn't make sense. My point is that if we are relying on one marquee game to draw in the crowd and the money, and we continue to do so, it will be completely shooting ourselves in the foot. If making this match a dees home game only every second year forces us to heighten the attention around other games, then that must happen.

There's a lot of work that we need to do to build our club, our brand and our suporter base. If we do this, it should roll over to increase the importance to fans of each match we play, which we must do. Perhaps this will force us to think of new ideas to build other games, against Ess, Haw or Rich (to get that back to the G). We can't rely on QB every year to pull in our cash, hopefully this will push the club to make it happen

I'm more than happy for this to be a Coll-Melb game next year. For starters, its fair. But beyond this, it means hopefully they'll get +1 interstate game, and us hopefully one less

Sorry but what do you mean by this?

Widely known innuendo?

Yesterday in general just felt like a real FOOTY day, in the sense that everything about it felt like you were really at the footy. Walking to the G in drizzly conditions certainly helped. Fights in the game, big crowd, historic conditions (because as if we get to play on a saturday on the G), tough game, close one, a few really good perfomances, overcast. Only thing missing was the result

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsid=61130 Wow

It seems like he's doing a lot of talking with not much thought behind it. Not speaking very coherently at all IMO

Did sound odd, because even on F/C he said that he only found out about the march a couple of weeks ago. Please. It's been paraded around by the club (no pun intended) since late last year. In our 150th birthday celebration weekend, with a game against Collingwood, odd he wouldn't think something was on. Oh well

How about when Mcdonald was going to take the kick-in, then as it was abotu to be play-on, put the ball on the ground and called Bell in, so that Mcdonald could slip in and become an easy option. A bit cheeky!

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl...7-19742,00.html If we don't beat the Tigers, i will be very upset. Not that we necessarily SHOULD, but i refuse to believe the effort that has pushed two top 4 teams the whole way cannot be replicated against a side who is consistent bottom four material.

Deestroy08 i completely agree with you. I spoke to him at the 150 heroes dinner and he just said im having a shocker of a season mate, i just said don't worry mate, all it takes is one good moment to turn it around. He does seem to think about it too much, may sound funny, needs to relax and have a bit of faith in his ability i think.

This about sums up what i'm talking about

I have to say this, but it's something that's been irking me and will probably not be very popular. But i am sick of people having a go at her. Especially on this rubbish Footy Classified show, but she is one journo who calls it as she sees it, isn't afraid to cop (often unwarranted) abuse for more often than not being pretty much on the mark. They constantly stick it to her, she is always willing to state why she runs articles that she runs (as opposed to many other journos) and whilst you won't like a lot of what she writes, it's usually pretty right. Even if some of it is basic, i still like that she offers insight into what she says. A very popular one to bag, but i reckon she's far ahead of many other journos.

So his game becomes a montage in "what not to do" and yet he shouldn't be dropped?

Disgrace! And how does he not at least have points carrying over?!?! Joke