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Was that how long in slo-mo repeat, or how long in real time? (which I estimate as somewhere between 4 and 5 seconds)

6 Jackson 5 Nibbler 4 Trac 3 Clarrie 2 Lever 1 Rivers

I love the way Jack plays the game. If the critics take the time to watch the whole sequence in real time they will note that two free kicks to Jack were ignored immediately prior to any elbow/forearm contact. They should also be aware that the action that lead to him being found guilty was brief, greatly magnified by the slow-mo used by the Media.

SamCOLLINS KEY DEFENDER 27 194cm 99kg JackVINEY MIDFIELDER 27 178cm 86kg

I think some of the critics here are confused by the slow-mo replay. The rubbing of the elbow on the neck is quite a bit shorter in real time. The whacker who suggests Viney is an easy replacement (by just about anyone else on the list) just doesn't know much about the game!

Did Collins play out the game? is he concussed? Any stitches? Will he play next game? Did Collins contribute to the position Viney was in? Appeal written all over this!

Best way to give Dermie the respect he deserves... switch channels/stations whenever he appears. If enough people do there will be an immediate change of tune!

I take more notice of the 'experts' on Demonland than AFL coaches when it comes to knowledgeable appraisal of a player's worth.... NOT!

You're too caught up in the Lemmings movement! Perhaps you're even leading!

Very selfish game by Viney... 11 tackles! He obviously is trying too hard! 32 Disposals... He should stick with 6 or 7 to warrant the criticism that the astute arm-chair critics of Demonland spit out! Only third for the team on metres gained... well that caps it off!

Better have another look at Jack's taking down of Ablett in our most recent final against Geelong!

Haven't bothered to read any of this [censored] tonight, but if anyone is bothering to find something to be negative about... pure Trolls, NO CREDIBILITY!, Give up! Crawl back into your hole! Go Dees!

We were deeper into our backline than I had noticed at any game in 2021. Quite often there was nobody from between our wing and half back line to our goals. I remarked on this a few times to my son on Saturday... on this occasion, we were out-coached. I am also one of those who think its a no-brainer to include Ben Brown from here on in!

Surprisingly, he has only umpired in 3 Dees v WC games in that time... but yes we lost them all! Playing in Subiaco & Perth the main predictor there!

Our winning % in those 21 years is around 36%... Our strike rate with Mr Margetts is 24%... You win some, you lose some! I'm only referring to the trend. I think the trend is a factor when tipping.

Umpire Margetts started his illustrious AFL umpiring career in 2002. In the twenty years he has adorned the stage he has umpired 29 MFC games. We have won 8 of them! I think we should pay more attention to his appointments when tipping!

Today I witnessed how far the current AFL machine (Admin, Umpires & Media) have drifted from the history and fabric of the game. This was a game where I was a 'neutral'... I picked the Bombers, but, for selfish reasons, I wanted the Hawks to get up. I found myself cursing and hostile over a game in which my beloved Demons were not involved. Today, Jake Stringer was allowed to get away with the most blatant throw I have ever witnessed. Three umpires saw it and rubber stamped it as fair play. It was a one hand sling that doesn't belong in this great game. The commentary team were seemingly paralyzed, and hardly spent a sentence to question this travesty! I know there are many debatable disposals in every game, and we should expect a few to go without penalty... but this was so openly blatant that I think it epitomizes the illness that has invaded our code. The call from above to keep the game moving, the blatant greed of the broadcasters to get goals so they can advertise, the glazed eyes of our adjudicators, who no longer understand or have a feel for the spirit of the game... all of these agents of erosion have joined forces with the result that the great game is corrupted!

I had to search for this thread because today I witnessed how far the current AFL machine (Admin, Umpires & Media) have drifted from the history and fabric of the game. This was a game where I was a 'neutral'... I picked the Bombers, but, for selfish reasons, I wanted the Hawks to get up. I found myself cursing and hostile over a game in which my beloved Demons were not involved. Today, Jake Stringer was allowed to get away with the most blatant throw I have ever witnessed. Three umpires saw it and rubber stamped it as fair play. It was a one hand sling that doesn't belong in this great game. I know there are many debatable disposals in every game, and we should expect a few to go without penalty... but this was so openly blatant that I think it epitomizes the illness that has invaded our code. The call from above to keep the game moving, the blatant greed of the broadcasters to get goals so they can advertise, the glazed eyes of our adjudicators, who no longer understand or have a feel for the spirit of the game... all of these agents of erosion have joined forces with the result that the great game is corrupted!

We departed from 'team first' -> as has been pointed out, Clarrie and Tracca tried too hard to be the man! Tracca's poor kicking was demoralising when we needed a steadier, calmer head. Next step for the champ! Max played a tired, cumbersome first half... his second half is what was needed from the first bounce Rivers was poor by foot too often. He is young and he is good, so I expect he will improve on this rapidly The Weideman experiment is over. M Brown offers more, without even considering BBB. Sparrow thinks he has VFL time when playing at the elite level Forwards who were having a poor day needed to do everything humanly possible to bring the ball to ground instead of standing flat footed allowing Woods intercepts

Done!

We are no longer contenders... We are the benchmark!

The Melksham bashing is so inane! If Sparrow, Chandler or Bedford came in and did the things Melksham did as recently as the Adelaide game, the same crew would be singing their praises as if we had unearthed a gem!

You had better read more carefully. My post was a question; which you arbitrarily chose to lump in with every other writer who felt the umpire made a mistake! I never used the word "cheat", another poster who seems to share your sentiments bought it up. That is why I thought some clarification was required... You seem to me to be wallpapering over any attempt to understand how an umpire can make such a blatant howler when the pressure is on.

We are not talking about an individual acting dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, we are acknowledging the influence of association when arbitrating under extreme pressure!

Is anyone surprised that the umpire who didn't make the call looks a lot like #11, a South Australian!