Umpire Please

10 hours ago, monoccular said:

I must say I would have Jesse about 75% high forward including marking target for kick ins, shared with Max (if he decides to put footy ahead of media in 2018) with Tom McD doing the other 25%, both with sojourns into the mid...........unless of course that Weideman absolutely demands selection with consistent good VFL performances. 

 

 

Even Stuart would be better, had he not unfortunately have passed away in 2011 aged around 80. 

When is Hogans contract due? As this will be another distraction he will have to deal with. The media starting the "is he staying or going back west " debate and pressure. 

22 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Here's a few reasons

Hogan surely would be blessed with a clear year. 

Brayshaw back on a permanent basis.

Gawn fit and firing. 

Oliver will learn to kick and not handball back into trouble. 

Trac into midfield mix more and impose himself.

Weideman will be in the gym all summer.

No retirements planned.

The hurt from 2017 will remain.

 

Yes so many positives to look forward to, none more then Hogan signing a contract extension before the season starts. If not he and the club will be back under that media pressure of "is he isn't he" staying or going back to Perth? If he is committed and wants to have a clear run in 2018 then he needs to get rid of this distraction/pressure asap.

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

How long has Dave Misson been at the club?

Every single year we run out of steam when it matters.  Yes thats a side effect of having a young list,  but surely it is time for a fresh head of conditioning/fitness and some new ideas.

Good point which is worth looking at. I would also like to see us create a position on the coaching panel of either a current senior umpire( so head hunt them)or a recently retired senior umpire. Their role would be to watch and provide feedback to players and other coaches during match simulation so that next year we reduce by a min of 15% the number of free we give away. Given we missed this years finals by the % of two goals, this would all add to our ability to get into the eight and maybe top four next year. I don't have the stats but I would say we give the opposition at least three goal a game from free kicks.  Also having one if their own white maggots on our side might give us a better chance of getting more 50/50 decisions our way?

1 hour ago, Hardatit said:

That's right...the players aren't hurting nearly as much as the Supporters sitting in the stands....really?????

It's the supporters in the stand that the club had been working so hard to get back to the games (record membership record attendance)It's the supporters who buy from the sponsors who also the club has been working hard to get onboard. We are loosing AHG next year as a major sponsor and the club need games like yesterday to be wins and also needs the team to play finals so they can get a replacement for AHG. So no we in the stands don't  hurt the same as the players but I didnt see to many Melbourne supporters leaving the G yesterday  joking about the game they had just watched. But the fact is yesterday's unacceptable effort has hurt everyone. As fans all we can do is buy a membership, show up and support, buy from the sponsors who support the club etc. As players when they can win games, lay tackles, hit up team mates etc. at an AFL standard , then they can go and be clowns In the media. 

Gawn is starting to look like a "clown" and not in a positive why. 

Should concentrate  on getting back to playing good football and leave the media jigs to others.

Not happy to see these two on the footy shows laughing and joking about the game. No wonder the players are so mentally soft! Two of the leaders making light of what was a very poor performance.

9 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That is just the attitude this club has had for so long

"it will be alright tomorrow...."

Fully agree. It's just unacceptable!!

The players need to be told and not have so many supporters saying " it's ok"" your a young team,  you will be better next year. You have to take your opportunities when they are right in front of you. A win yesterday and we know we are playing finals. Because they lost who knows how many of the players are looking forward to Mad Monday, and will be under prepared if we do have to play next week. Personally I hope we don't make it now as it looks like if we do  it will be against the Swans. They will slaughter us up there. It could be a scare that stays with the younger players that will see us go backwards for the next few years. Better to finish on yesterday's game and come back and work even harder pre season and go hard next year. 

11 hours ago, jumbo returns said:

Did we get done by 100 points?

No but we lost again against a side that we should beat. So even a one point loss should be unacceptable. We can no longer accept performances like that. They have over 8 of their best players out today. We had one of our strongest teams in on paper. We played very dumb football and don't deserve to play finals.

6 hours ago, Dr.D said:

im so sick of personally being condemned for my opinions of mcdonald. i've never liked him as a player. Sure he can take a mark and has good endurance but the moment he has the ball and his eyes dart 1 degree in board you may as well pencil in a goal. Oscar is the same

Also for Tom he is a big strong bloke (Tarzan) but for the last three or so weeks he has played like Jane! He lets the opposition players just run past with only a token effort to stop them and I can't remember the last time he shepherded for a team mate. If we can get something for him trade him and his bother please.

56 minutes ago, joeboy said:

Jones - gallant and cared

Hogan - unsighted before injury

Salem - slow and loose

Watts - didn't silence doubters

Petracca - had little impact

Lewis - season best game

Brayshaw - was rarely sighted

Gawn - couldn't hold marks

Tyson - an overrated liability

Oliver - many pointless handpasses

Hibberd - continued downward spiral

Melksham - took his chances

Hannan - overwhelmed and undersized

Pedersen - no heroics today

Vince - past his prime

T.McDonald - disappointing and loose

O.McDonald - hardly imbued confidence 

Hunt - exciting but careless

Neal-Bullen - was hardly noticed

Garlett - frustrating but tried

Jetta - not his best

Harmes - was he playing?

 

Replace against all players except the MacBoys- Butchered the Ball

Against the Mac boys- Very Dumb Footballer.

Please trade the Mac boys please please they are bloody hopeless. 

I don't want to see them in the red and blue again. 

7 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

I want Frosty to stay.
Big, fast aggressive blokes don't grow on trees and if it true he's got the sulks being played in the 2s
  it'll only be worse if we start shopping him around.

As for Lever,  I'll believe it when I see it and if we're not careful we'll lose Frost and have neither.

He has been worked out by the opposition that he hasn't got a big engine. Very good in the first half but drops off in the second half. So they now run him around early and then they get to run off him in the later part of the game. Club have told him but he isn't doing the extra work. 

Out  T Mac in Frost

On 13/08/2017 at 7:57 PM, Forest Demon said:

There are bad decisions and bad non-decisions flying around left, right and centre, but if you think there is anything more sinister going on than a lot of grey area rules being inconsistently applied, you are a screw loose.

We copped the rough end of it in the 3rd quarter, no doubt, and probably also in other games as well, but if you could take a step back, you would probably see we get a good run every now and then as well, Queens Birthday comes to mind.

And that would explain why it is roughly equal in the frees for and against over the course of the season.

Simple answer for the AFL to min this type of discussion would be that at the start of the year teams of umpires are put together and umpire together for the whole session. This would include boundary goal emergency and the video ump. They would train together umpire together and if one of them has a shocker they all go back to the country. This way they would get to know each other and then there would be more consistent with their decisions. Also they would pull each other into line if a bad decision was made because none of them would want to get sent to the bush the following week. Teams only get better the more they train and play together so why should it be any different for the umps?

23 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

If he plays next week then they've treated him by injecting him with Jack Viney's blood. 

Drove past Gosch's this morning at 9.50 am and Jesse was out there with some trainers doing over head marking and marking off the pads( like they do at quarter time home games). Looked ok, no signs of discomfort. Might see him in the last game against the filth.

5 hours ago, KC from Casey said:

And that was never in doubt - why can't the big Demons play like that in the wind?

Peter Jackson VFL 2017

Casey Demons 3.3.21 4.3.27 10.7.67 14.9.93

Sandringham 1.0.6 8.7.55 10.8.68 12.11.83

Goals 

Casey Demons Fritsch Scott 3 Collis Ferreira Giobbi Hulett Keilty Kennedy Munro Weideman 

Sandringham Cook Holmes Lonie Rich 2 Bailey Battle Long Phillips  

Best 

Casey Demons Stretch Brayshaw Keilty Kennedy Kennedy-Harris Fritsch

Sandringham Lonie Long Weickhardt

Disposals Kennedy-Harris 39 Brayshaw 34 Kennedy 33

Maybe because the train at Cadey Ground where the first should have been trading prior to the Tassie and Canberra games? 

We went up the last time they played there and the local Demon supporter group has a pre game function at a club close to the ground. Call the MFC Membership number and they will be able to give you the details. It's hosted by Russel Robertson. Then after this you just walk down to the match and get they 15- 20mins before the game starts.

1 hour ago, buck_nekkid said:

No

Agree we need the Weed!

On 30 July 2017 at 2:18 PM, beelzebub said:

Something desperately wrong with a defence setup that ever requires Nev to have to take on Brown !!

Not sure who were worse...players or coaches.

Neither up to the task yesterday. Smacked botties all round i think.

Would it have been too much for the coaches to do a couple of training sessions at Casey leading up to this game, given we were going to play in Hobart then Canberra in the middle of winter. Surely that ground would have given the team a more realistic conditions to see how the game plan might work at windy, cold and possibly wet grounds ! That last quarter was school boy football mistakes, not playing in front when defending into the wind and thinking kicking with the wind it would all just happen for them. So I blame the coaches for not preparing the team and the players for not doing some basics in those conditions. 

23 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Watts is on thin ice, two very weak efforts since his return.

So based on your reasoning Hogan would have been dropped after the Darwin game. I think Jack has lots more credits in the bank ahead of what Hogan has. When is the last time or ever that Hogan has  one us a game ?? 

On 27/07/2017 at 2:19 AM, dpositive said:

Already touring Tassie

Ticets arranged by Pete and club for group arriving for weekend including club pre game.

independant Accomodation and Friday night with MONA visit on Sunday

We will be noticeable by wearing the red and blue. (Not the away strip) although may be covered by layers coz its bloody cold down here.

On our way down now but flight delayed. Thanks  dpositive for your help in organising what we hope will be our second interstate win we have been too this season.

3 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I was taken to the Whorethorn Social Club about a week after the '88 GF

I still get horrendous Flashbacks

Smug Bastards...

Was married to a hawks supporter  in the late 70s and 80's and had to go back to that place after every game we played against them. Except once when we almost beat them when Flower kicked a few in the last quarter. Tuck got a lucky free  and they just fell over the line to win. I gave them hell and said they will never win the flag that year which they didn't.  On the way out of the G I went for a slash and when I came out they had all gone.  Left me there so didn't have to go back to to the social club. Ya!!

12 hours ago, joeboy said:

Hogan - diluted team's confidence 

Petracca - needed more involvement 

Lewis - our best performer

Gawn - just a shadow

Oliver - tried but overwhelmed

Hibberd - prolific but wasteful

Kent - quiet before injury

Frost - destroyed by class

Melksham - good first half

Hannan - not an onballer

Pedersen - on downward spiral

Vince - undisciplined but tried

Kennedy-Harris - deserves another game

T.McDonald - game from hell

O.McDonald - persisted but overwhelmed

Hunt - displayed great energy

Neal-Bullen - poor under pressure

Garlett - failed to perform

Jetta - season worst game

Wagner - persisted and impressed

Harmes - little to commend

Smith - far from ready

 

Hogan- Back to Casey

On ‎9‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 6:18 PM, Gorgoroth said:

Jetta - star, star, star.

Hogan - one effort player.

Smith - Deer in Headlights

 

Agree, I know he was coming back from a long layoff but did he get anything from playing . I have said it  before, Hogan needs a few quarters if not a full game in the VFL "rag dolling" a few defenders like he did in his first year with us. help him get his confidence up and right for the finals.

27 minutes ago, deebug said:

Wait until Weed bulks up he will be a rippa.

Agree totally.