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Petracca is yet to have a break out game, but you just feel it's around the corner.

Special ? Hogan is special. McCartin might be solid, or even very good, I don't see "special".

When people reference Petracca's "attitude" I believe it was more maturity than any arrogance. And supposedly he made great gains in this regard in his final year of the TAC, during which time he played a lot more in the midfield. He may not have done well in the psyche test, but from all reports he's loved by his teammates and probably continued to mature. We have some potential superstars on our list. The type of talent that plays in premierships. I've seen enough to be confident it's not a false dawn.

Salem doesn't have speed. I'd like a gut-running speedster who delivers well. Kelly would be perfect.

Isaac Smith, Josh Kelly, or dare I say it, even the gut-running Rodent, is the type of player that would round out our midfield.

He left in January 2012 and had no part in recruiting Hogan. Todd Viney can lay claim to Hogan. And me, of course. *Hanged*

I don't think it's fair on the true wingers from those days to be compared to the mids from those days or the mids from today. Their possession numbers won't be (aren't) as high and they'll be marked down when they shouldn't. Mids spent most of their time following the ball all over the ground and when they didn't they rested forward and kicked tonnes of goals. You can please yourself, of course, but when I judge today's mids I don't include Flower in those comparisons, because in my view it's not fair on him. He is though, in my view, the greatest wingman whoever lived.

I haven't just joined.

Greg Wells imo is the best mid we've had since Barassi and better than Todd Viney, etc. And as I mentioned earlier, I don't consider Flower a mid in the true sense of the word, as wingers weren't really mids in those days.

I'm going to make a massive call - Clayton Oliver will be our best midfielder since Ron Barassi (note Flower was a wingman in a very different era, so he's not included in my deliberations). When you work through it it's actually not such a big call, it's a logical call to anyone who's seen him play and is familiar with our lack of stars over the last 50 years. He's unquestionably Jason Taylor's best pick. To be pick 4 when you fail to make your U18 state team in the year you're drafted is incredible intuition and judgement by those that recruited you. The deal done to orchestrate two picks in the top 10 and make certain of the selection was just as brilliant, as it was the first time a deal of that nature had been done. We set the standard for other clubs to follow under the new points system. I'd say Hunt was his next stroke of genius in a long line of really solid or great decisions. And while there was a time I wanted to hunt Prendergast down he's done what virtually no other recruiter before him had, he recruited Gawn, who is a star of the game and should end his career as one of this club's greats.

People have a propensity to get nose bleeds at high altitude. In others words, he'd get a nose bleed for being taken so high.

"one talent spotter suggested Oliver “would get nose bleeds” if he went as high as the first round of the draft"

George was going nuts giving me warning points, so hopefully I'll stay low for a while.

Might have to change it back.

C. Judd

Possibly. I hope Oliver develops his outside game so that he stays around the 50% CP mark, but gets more of it.

Absolutely, and Parish won't get caught out in the heat of a final. We all know that Oliver is a contested ball winning beast and he came 60th in the league for contested possessions, which is terrific for a first year teenager, but Parish is no slouch in the cp department either. In fact he came 69th. 49% of Oliver's possessions were contested, which is an elite ratio, while 43% of Parish's possessions were contested, which is also excellent. The number 1 player in the game for CP (total) was Josh Kennedy, who averaged 54% and Dangerfield averaged 50%. By percentages Patrick Cripps is no.1 in the league at 62%.

Yes, Parish has a long career ahead of him. He's an unbelievably busy and smart player, who will really hurt teams once he gets a tank. He reminds me of a young Cousins and a young Crawford.

You're in the top 2 thickest posters I've encountered on here. No mean feat. Congrats.

You're a dope, bloke. Since when is female subjugation, stoning, oppression, honour killings, gays thrown from buildings, and sharia, which abbhors freedom and man-made laws, an "agenda" ? These are issues conservatives, and any human being with an ounce of compassion and intelligence, rail against, while you, the left, completely ignore these niceties, because it doesn't suit your brainless narrative. Leftism is a mental illness.

The Left get excited by a bit of Trump rhetoric, but I don't. And I don't have an issue with his policies. He wants to secure America's borders. Tick Increase manufacturing. Tick Scrutanise arrivals from the most benighted Islamic countries on the planet. Tick He calls out the Left agenda driven media. Tick He recognises the clinate change hoax for what it is. NOAA and Nasa have been manipulating graphs for years. The money wasted on this deceit is a blight on humanity. The planet is not warming dangerously. He wants to make health care more affordable for the working class. You're a leftist that struggles to not come to blows with those with whom you disagree, so I hope you manage to read this post without too many heart palpitations. Or not. Btw, you're welcome to write an essay on the Trump policies that make you cry. I may or may not respond.

"Comprehensive catalogue" ? Let's cut the crap. The Left never utter a single word against issues that don't suit their agenda. Ever. So it's not a matter of picking or choosing, or not necessarily commenting on every single issue or public utterance, the Left never ever break rank against their various agendas. The most disingenuous scumbags on the planet.

I don't give a stuff about Abbott. He had his chance and blew it on issues where he should have made a stance. But I love the hypocrusy of leftist feminists. The type who attack Trump, here and overseas, yet they utter not a word about honour killings or wife beatings within Islam. And refuse to denounce Muslim leaders who spew their garbage in our communities. Lefties, like you, keep your gobs shut too.

I love the hypocrisy of leftist feminists. They have seizures over a Tony Abbott wink, yet are silent over a Muslim leader saying it's acceptable to beat your wife. The left are the most hypocritical scumbags on the planet.

Stay left. You fit in well.