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I don't like labouring the point

In short, some of your "sick feeling" and concerns are based on one contest on a video clip ?

Who says his claims are "easily dismissed" ? U either have a preference for a structure, depending on matchups and injury, or you don't. There's no way I'm playing all of Gawn, Tom McDonald, Hogan, and Pedersen through the forward line. It won't be a structure Goodwin wants. Pedersen misses for me. I'd also preference Weideman over Pedersen because he's the future. His body hasn't been strong enough to compete at AFL level, but hopefully it will be after this preseason. But it's up to Pedersen. If his form demands selection it will be hard to overlook him. My money won't be on him lining up in round one if we have a full list to choose from. It's not "personal".

Excuse the intrusion... Hogan has never kicked 45 goals in a season and Pedersen has never got close to Hogan's level. Pedersen has also never kicked 4 goals in a game. I suggest the answer to your question is "highly unlikely". I don't have Pedersen in my best 22, so perhaps I shouldn't have intruded

If I'm not mistaken that video you're referencing is a drill where one player makes not much more than a token effort to restrict his opponent. It's not really contested work. In isolation that clip shouldn't be measured against intent. Having been to a number of training sessions over the years there's a number of those types of positioning drills.

When Neal-Bullen was exposed to AFL level football prior to 2017 it was mainly through the middle and his disposal was rushed and he made poor decisions under pressure. I didn't like what I saw. In 2017 he had a new and defined role that he diligently kept to and he played within his limitations. And he often lowered his eyes and started to make really smart decisions. The more comfortable at the level the better he got. He competes and contests well and had a very consistent year, hence his B&F finish. I don't think he has the talent to be an A-grader, but he's the type that will get the best out of himself, so I wouldn't back against him.

And we got the player they used pick 23 on (McKenna). Although, most of us are presently none the wiser about him due to his hamstring issues.

Dennis Prager, a conservative Jew I greatly admire, often tells of how he grew up a Democrat. He says, "I was a Jew, who grew up in Brooklyn, what choice did I have ?". He regularly laments that most Jews are to the Left when it comes to social issues and politics.

In truth, I was mainly referencing American politics. I should add, I'm a pragmatist too. It's what we conservatives do.

*Prager

I've looked at his career average disposals, which is around 19, and iy holds up well with the wingmen of his era. Or should I say "wingperson". FMD

I disagree. And so does the great Dennis Praget. Your viewpoint utterly makes sense, but unfortunately most Jews are non-practising and most definitely left-leaning. I once assumed your position to be the correct one, but upon scratching deeper I found it's not the case. Btw, and I know I don't need to say this, you're my favourite Leftist. In fact, I can't believe you're Left. I'll wager you turn.

Hard to know. Maybe he was held to a higher account, as in it just became expected. He did, however, finish top 5 in the B&F 9 times, so was mostly thereabouts.

The Trump loathers are a fragile lot. Groupthink is alive and well when it comes to Trump. He's not borderline insane, he's not neurotic, and he's not dangerous. You should be thankful the West has a strong leader. The reason Islamism is thriving is twofold, i.e. the West's decades long clumsy interference in the Middle East and Obama's horrible limp-wristed presidency. Now let me be clear about Islam. It's as much, or more, a political ideology than a religion. It has a complete set of rules and beliefs that are entirely incompatible with freedom and democracy. Put simply, Islam is evil. (Cue: this is the moment the more deranged Leftists start potting Christianity). Btw, how those with a matriarchal lineage to Judaism are still ignorant of Islam is somewhat astonishing to me. Although, I accept they're non practising Jews and their Leftist leanings usurp their heritage. Besides, if you're ignorant on a subject you're ignorant. If there's a Leftist on here prepared to debate me on Islam in the West put your hand up and have a go. I will utterly shred you, but with luck you'll start learning about the dangers presented by Islam. If you're not prepared to debate then just make cowardly snide remarks and expose yourself as a low intelligence mendicant.

Oliver is 20 and doesn't turn 21 until 3/4s of the way through the year.

I last logged in August 24, 2016.

I don't thinks so. I remember many older actresses from black and white movies, but without looking up their names I could misspell plenty of them. To even reference her indicates an older age group.

He referenced May West. My suspicion is he's not young.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-11-29/lever-pounces-on-retired-demons-number

Seven man backline. Harmes seems leaner and is training with the mids and it also potentially opens up a position for Maynard.

He's building size nicely.

If highlight reels were worthless recruiters wouldn't pore over them for hours. And yes, they watch them countless times live, speak to coaches, family, conduct interviews, etc. Petty was drafted earlier than Oscar; Petty was named most valuable player for his state in the under 18 carnival; Petty was named in the under 18 AA team (Oscar didn't make it). I don't think it's a stretch to say that Petty has a higher ceiling than Oscar. I think Petty, Oscar and Lever will be able to team well together in 2-3 years.

There seems to be a common misconception that Oliver isn't overly quick. Oliver's pace for an inside bull is superb, we just don't see it enough. But if you watch him closely his burst speed is very good. For the record, Oliver tested 2.99 seconds for the 20 metre sprint prior to the draft. Anything sub 3 seconds is elite. If you read the bios for players in this year's draft such as Ed Richards, Charlie Ballard, Lochie O'Brien, Matthew Ling, Jaidyn Stephenson, you'll note that high up on their strengths is their speed. Only one broke 3 seconds (Stephenson 2.97). Thankfully, this misconception about Oliver's speed was dispelled in the media this year: 7/4/2017 Melbourne Demon Oliver leads army of stars Michael Gleeson He is like Cripps or Sydney's Josh Kennedy, a tall and strong midfielder who with longer arms have better reach to be able to get clear of a tackle and still get a handball out. The difference between Oliver and Cripps or Kennedy is that he is quick. I know, he doesn't look like he is, but he is. The assumption with an inside player is they are one-paced plodders often with good endurance, Oliver bucks that. He is quick and has decent foot skills. "He accelerates through the contest," Melbourne player/coach performance manager Brendan McCartney said. "He is electric. He just has great power.

Let's look at a bit of history for our purse-lipped self-loathing Lefties. Global warming Superstar the late Stephen Schneider wasn't always a global warming advocate, but he was always a political behemoth. "To capture the public imagination, we have to offer up some scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and little mention of any doubts one might have. Each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective, and being honest." - Leading greenhouse advocate, Dr Stephen Schneider ( in interview for "Discover" magazine, Oct 1989) Hmmm. But let's rewind a little... Schneider was one of the first in the scientific community to warn of the impending Ice Age with this paper - Schneider S. & Rasool S., "Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide and Aerosols - Effects of Large Increases on Global Climate", Science, vol.173, 9 July 1971, p.138-141 Abstract. Effects on the global temperature of large increases in carbon dioxide and aerosol densities in the atmosphere of Earth have been computed. It is found that, although the addition of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere does increase the surface temperature, the rate of temperature increase diminishes with increasing carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. For aerosols, however, the net effect of increase in density is to reduce the surface temperature of Earth. Because of the exponential dependence of the backscattering, the rate of temperature decrease is augmented with increasing aerosol content. An increase by only a factor of 4 in global aerosol background concentration may be sufficient to reduce the surface temperature by as much as 3.5 deg.K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease over the whole globe is believed to be sufficient to trigger an ice age. And more... We report here on the first results of a calculation in which separate estimates were made of the effects on global temperature of large increases in the amount of CO2 and dust in the atmosphere. It is found that even an increase by a factor of 8 in the amount of CO2, which is highly unlikely in the next several thousand years, will produce an increase in the surface temperature of less than 2 deg. K. However, the effect on surface temperature of an increase in the aerosol content of the atmosphere is found to be quite significant. An increase by a factor of 4 in the equilibrium dust concentration in the global atmosphere, which cannot be ruled out as a possibility within the next century, could decrease the mean surface temperature by as much as 3.5 deg. K. If sustained over a period of several years, such a temperature decrease could be sufficient to trigger an ice age! It would be less than 10 years later and the scare was suddenly global warming. Physics hasn't changed. Motives have.

The summer of 1936 was by far the hottest on record in the US, which wrecks the global warming scam - so @NASA and @NOAA have done everything they can to make the heat of 1936 disappear.