KingDingAling

Instead of the Charlie Cameron pick we need to be asking Adelaide for their 2018 first round pick. They probably won't make top 4, and in fact could drop out of the top 6. It would be good if a club didn't bend us over at the trade table for once.

You want to throw Dustbin under the bus? You not satisfied with the previous hatchet job the media did on the poor kid? Anyway, it wasn't Martin. Judging by the responses on big footy to the latest incident the player wasn't a star player (even though he has been referred to as one in the media).

I didn't see any tattoos on her - just a premiership medal.

If they want our 2017 & 18 first round picks, fine. But we want their 2018 first round pick included in the Lever deal. Out: 2017 FIRST & SECOND PICK, 2018 FIRST ROUND PICK. In: LEVER & ADELAIDE 2018 FIRST ROUND PICK.

I had a dream last night he does. I remember the AFL website said "Shock" in relation to Hogan seeking a trade to Freo. I woke up from my slumber earlier today and went straight to the AFL website because I was praying it was just a dream.Thankfully it was. All this reading about Hogan and Fremantle is now causing me to dream about it. Trade week is already messing with me and it hasn't even started yet.

Different players. Kennedy may have made it had we not had Viney and Oliver come on as well as they have. Early last year Kennedy was actually up to AFL level, and was playing good football. Balic is a different player to Kennedy. Balic has more tools, and has a frame more suited to AFL football (IMO). He will need to hone his strengths though, because he isn't going to find the ball as much as someone like Kennedy, so when Balic does get the ball he is going to need to do something with it. I wanted us to draft Balic the year Freo took him. I thought they got a steal, so I'd be happy to land him.

I think he will be a starter. He has a bit more class than many on the fringe. He was a good ball user as a junior. We need good ball users. I actually think Balic will be a steal. He is very capable. He has class and moves well. Providing he completes a pre-season I expect he will play over 15 games next year.

No difference anymore. They are practically the same thing nowadays.

Balic can play. He will be a starter.

Surprised he was delisted. Would be a good get.

If players are disgruntled then good. I hope they are. I hope our precious players are made to feel really uncomfortable. They are going to have to start getting uncomfortable if they want to win a flag. They are going to have to fight for everything they have. I like that. I am no Goodwin fan, but if he is starting to p*ss off our playing list then he has my full support.

No way. We wouldn't get Macrae, and if we did we would be buying high. He was close to their best player this year. It makes no sense for us to chase Macrae. We could not even nearly afford him now. Our best bet is to look for the next Macrae (before he had a break out this year).

Pace and poise. But he needs to improve his timing. I think Stretch is naturally fairly calm, but he does look rushed a lot. I think that is a timing issue. I think it is upstairs (mental). He needs to just relax. Because he has that in him. Do your hard work early and then just calm yourself. I think if he can do that he could be a weapon. We desperately need a good delivery into our forward line and there is no reason that cannot be Billy Stretch. The job is certainly up for grabs. Our disposal into our forward line has been bush level standard (junior bush level standard).

I have always liked: IN - Jake Lever AND Adelaide 2018 first round pick. OUT: Melbourne 2017 first AND second round pick, and 2018 first round pick. I have seen this mentioned before, and on big footy a month or so back. I read something in draft and trading the other day about proposing this to Adelaide if they wanted to get nasty. That way both clubs could put up their 2018 first round pick and bet on having a good year. This is the trade I would make in a heart beat. It would say to Adelaide "Look, if you don't like our 2017 first and second round pick, then we will exchange your 2018 first round picks". It is a big FU to a club that thinks they are being hard nosed. It is saying to them "right, if you think you are all that then put your money where your mouth is". We may be able to bluff them into giving up Lever, and their 2018 first round pick. Considering we didn't even make the finals this year, and Adelaide made the top 4 - they SHOULD back themselves in with that deal. Hopefully if made they dropped out of the 8 in 2018 and we made the top 4 (which we will).

Just because he chose him as his successor it doesn't mean he should agree with everything he says and does. Goodwin wouldn't want him to either. Being an AFL coach appears to be a very tough job. Roos questioning Goodwin's possible trade scenario's would be the least of his worries.

I am glad Oliver didn't poll as well as he should have. Will be better odds next year. I think Dusty, Kelly, Oliver and Fyfe. Winner probably comes within those 4. The quality of talent around at present is insane. Martin is as good a mid as I've seen, and he should get better. It will take a very special player to beat him next year (Martin is only improving). Oliver, Kelly and Fyfe are all unique talents.

There isn't much point worrying about Hogan leaving. 1. If he did we would get a good deal. 2. If he wanted to leave he'd be no use to us anyway. 3. If he wants to stay he is obviously committed and wants to play. Hogan isn't the type of player to play for us if he doesn't want to. So there is no point even worrying. I am more interested in what the go is with the Jack Watts and Christian Salem rumors, and if there is anything to them. There has been talk on here, and in the media about Watts and Salem being up for trade.

Players drinking and partying in the off season is a real non event. The demands of an AFL player are rigorous. Supporters can't expect these guys to keep it up 12 months of the year. If they go out and get sh*t faced then they are no different to anyone else. Human. Side note: I hope Gawn doesn't spew on Hogan.

Good post. I agree. I will give the AFL one thing though - they are clear about the bump. The way Cotchin plays though, it is similar to the way Angus Brayshaw was playing before his concussions. And this isn't Brayshaw's fault. He played a certain way in juniors and then the game of AFL is played differently. Because Cotchin has changed up his game style, he needed to be told not to approach the contest in a reckless manner. If all players slowed down approaching a contest, there would be less injuries and suspensions. I suspect the AFL would be pulling their hair out atm. Because they can't exactly come out and define how players should attack the contest. With this suspension though Cotchin will adjust his approach in the future.

The sport HAD serious problems around head high contact. You simply cannot opt to bump - when the option is there to tackle. That is it, very clear cut. The AFL actually could not make this anymore clear cut. I do have sympathy for Trent though. He is going to miss out on a grand final. But as someone who knows the game as much as I do, I know the game of AFL is inherently flawed. There is a MASSIVE grey area in entering a contest. I have spoken to players at the AFL level and they know it. Once players weren't allowed to dive on the football, you have some that are still allowed (Danger, and Cotchin has been this year), and most that aren't. The end result is Cotchin goes to approach a contest tonight in the same manner that he has been all year (and been getting away with). So in a way it is the umpires fault for not umpiring all players in the same manner. If they had of pulled Cotchin up during the year then he would have adjusted his approach. But make no mistake, the game is very grey at present. VERY.

Exactly. You get it. Good eye, and you understand the game. Not many do, so full props there.

As a big Jack Watts fan, catcha later Jack. Jack has had his chance. He is lackadaisical. Those players aren't built for finals.

Its a good move. I think Vince can lift. Had an ok year, but was carrying a bad toe injury earlier in the year, and he did well to play through that. He improved slightly in the latter half of the year, but he has plenty of improvement in him for the next year. Also, he is now becoming more familiar with his role down back. I think he will have a great 2018. Expecting Vince to bounce back.

I think most clubs in the league would give up 2 top 5 selections for Oliver.

And Cory Bernardi said that the current survey without detail is a "blank cheque" to the parliament. I agree with him. Not that it really matters what I think. The vote will go ahead regardless of what you or I think. I don't see much point wasting too much time arguing on the net over it, other than to say I would vote NO. Have a good day and good luck with your vote in the future.