Rhino Richards

Its called flossing the facts Jerry. Get over it. Once upon a time there lived a big..... You must have tipped us for win on the weekend and taken odds. So we are as good as North are we now? The only thing you have got right Jerry is that the Saints weren't switched on. The rest is revising history for your own means Maybe Jerry, the team on top is in a no win situation if you think about it....really think about it.

Right he had a stint at sprint coaching over 10 years ago. Brilliant. That has no relevance to his functional responsibilities now. And how would you possibly know what comes down to "conditioning" and "preparation" when you have no clue as to why the injuries have occurred? Do you know the roles of the people I mentioned at MFC or are going to rely on an uninformed educated guess again? Do you know why those injuries have occurred? Were they the result of soft tissue injuries or actually collision in the play injuries? There are other factors in play. I find it hard to hang fitness staff if a player incurs an injury through landing awkwardly from a mark or through a collision with an opponent. Given we have completely flipped over our list with generational change in players occurring I find it self serving that anyone could try an used "best 22" as any sort of measuring. What I do know would affect the list is that we had a number of players who had come to end of their careers and had started incurring long healing injuries on old bodies (Neitz, Yze, Robbo, Picket, Whelan, Wheatley - there six). In addition we have a number of young players whose bodies are young and still developing for the rigours of AFL (Blease, Strausss, Wona, Garland,McNamara, Grimes, Petterd, Bartram). We also have players who are still managing LT OP situations in Rivers and Sylvia. You should know better than to get naively sucked in by the trial by runour and innuendo practised by some wingnuts on this site.

You're way off the track There were more MFC players out their playing for their careers than Saints players. Few if any of the Saints players positions were in jeopardy for next week. If anything Riewoldt was playing injured and they were missing their most dynamic big man in Gardner. There biggest issue was to get the 4 points and no injuries. Their focus is on this week, not playing a pre determined wooden spooner.They accomplished their objectives with 10 minutes of football.

Good idea lets sack him on the basis of rumour and innuendo. If there is plausible and valid evidence that BB is at fault or failing his job then he like any one else should be held accountable. However, despite the naive accusations and trumped up rumour, I have not heard a valid case for doing so. Glad you're easily bought. BTW, someone correct me but I dont think BB is a the sprints coach and from the MFC website.... Adam Paulo – Assistant Fitness Coach - Valeri Stoimenov – Strength and Conditioning Coach - Bohdan Babijczuk – Athletic Development Coach So who is actually responsible for what? Would any supporter know? Not likely. But lets sack BB anyway for the sake of it.

Whether the squad is fully fit or not is irrelevant. If their form demands they get selected, they should be selected...period. Why cut our noses off? If they are good enough to be there then they should be in the team. Why should others get selected who are not as good as them? Why cant the others aern their stripes? Just does not make sense. Lets not get unduly distracted by pretence and cliches.

St Kilda close to asleep and at its worst were still 8 goals better than a plucky MFC who are showing some good signs. But lets not get carried away. We need to improve.... a lot and St Kilda would need to get worse by a fair bit before we can claim game on. When focussed, we aren't even in the Saints ballpark at the moment. Give it a couple of years and....

Your comment just proves my point. Ratten had the cattle that year. We had Scott Thompson who was sensational until he got injured (round 15/16?). We had an AA ruckman in White that gave us first use of the ball out of the centre. Its interesting that when Thompson went injured and White tired physically from rucking solo most of the year, the midfield drive was gone and we fell in a heap and crashed out of the finals with barely a whimper. Thompson went to Adelaide and White was neutered by the change in the centre bounce rule. We have floundered in the middle since as we did not have the same calibre of player in the mids.

Was there contact to the head in that incident?

Unless you are close to the footy department and the workings of it, the average footy supporter may as well shoot fish in lake with a blind fold in assessing assistant coaches. Mouseys assessment of Wellman, West and Mahoney directly reflects the cattle at hand. We have the makings of a fine defence which has been 3 to 4 years in the making. The midfield is taking shape and will be bolstered with the two top draft picks. The forward line is at the early stage of development with the two keys , Watts and Jurrah in their first year without a pre season. Its no wonder when you have green prospects up forward and a third world midfield that gets cut up that a forward line coach is going to look bad. Are any of these coaches out of contract this year?

Main Entry: blas·phe·my Pronunciation: \ˈblas-fə-mē\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural blas·phe·mies Date: 13th century 1 a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity 2 : irreverence toward something considered sacred or inviolable No blasphemy here boyo! With young rucks its the investment now for the future. And such players with long lead times will always come with some risk.

Assuming they are fit, if Scully and Trengove are not good enough to break into the MFC side from the pre season and practice matches I would be surprised. Based on the film clips and the trusted reviews of both players they should be certainties to get a taste early. If they show they are good enough pre Round 1 why would not you play them?

Get used to it. The side is still young, its inexperienced and still in development. Days of great promise will also come with days of soul searching.

Aside from Kruezer, I have seen the rawness and potential in any number of 18-19 yo ruckman. I saw the same goofiness in blokes Simmonds and Jolly. They had the same characteristics and neither matured into first rucks until they were 25+ Your meassuring a 19yo against standard set by mid to late 20's ruck who was a 10 year 200+ gamer and AA winner. Then Spencer failsl If there is issue with our rucks stocks I think we should looking at other rucks on our list. I actually think Spencer at times gave us more in the centre than PJ did. If you want to put an opinion on a public forum and expect it not to reasonably challenged then you have my profound sympathies for the misperception.

Like Travis Johnstone, Alan Didak and Colin Sylvia. A first round pick should ideally be a player who is a 10 year 200+ gamer that is critical cog in any premiership push. Hopefully leadership is there as a bonus but not every first rounder is captaincy material.

Geez i have a fear I left someone out. Bugger our possible Bluey this year. Shame file. Davey in, Petterd to the Bench. Jones out of the 22. He is no 23! Spot on.

Unfortunately he is Captain and will be in the side Rd 1 and presumably for most of the season so long as his form permits. B: Garland Warnock McDonald HB: Grimes Rivers Frawley C: McLean Scully, Morton HF: Green Martin Bate F: Jurrah Watts Davey FOLL: Jamar Bruce Sylvia IC: Bennell, Moloney, Trengove, Petterd. Others who should be pushing for selection over the course of the year: Dunn, Jetta, Blease, Strauss, Spencer, Wonna,Jones,Jetta, Maric, Pick 18, Pick 34 and PSD#1( hope its good)

Geelong wouldnt.

Dont know on that one....I am not sure Cheney has enough pace to go with the endeavour. They could delist McNamara and rookie him... I think the other three are at risk though.

Thanks for the dollop of hindsight. Dunn will be competing for a spot in Round 1. Newtons resigning has been covered ad nauseam on this site. Cutting Johnson would be foolish given our limited ruck stocks. Bell is surplus. But its called list management and you need to manage the contracts and its difficult to line up the contract expries to match the perceptions of supporters. I sure in twelve months time you can say that we should have got rid of them a year ago. Miller Bartram, Buckley, Cheney and McNamara are in the gun as far as I am concerned.

So you are basing it on one game or a season? If its a season then you have glzed over alot. He is still learning the caper but he does contest the ruck knockouts, he does throw his body around to clear space the midfielders. He is far more agile at this stage then the start of the year and can actually size up a pass which he could not do at the start of the year. And your criteria for rating him is misplaced and you would do well to watch him closely. At this stage he is no Kreuzer but is definitely worth tracking. And I am sure had he kicked one goal you would be raving over him.

Brettmcg has the story http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/leade...1570665135.html "But it will not be this year. McDonald yesterday signed to play for another season and he will remain captain of the club again next year. The Demons have embraced a draft-led recovery, and to that end farewelled three senior members of the team on Sunday, but they have sought to retain their captain in no small part because they want that influx of young players to be exposed to McDonald for another season. ''That would be my view, and that was one of the reasons for him staying on next year was to continue on as being the captain,'' coach Dean Bailey said. ''James being able to be pass on leadership and be captain of the football club and to be influential with our young midfielders and drafted players to come in was a very significant factor in him playing on. Obviously he has also had a very good season and his last month in particular has been very good, so we are very pleased that he will be playing on again next year."

Lets give them pick 2 while you're at it. One of the few trades that gets put here that actually screws MFC rather than the other way around.

Hardly. They have played about 28 players this year and about 20 -players name themselves in that sides. They had a weekend jolly before the real stuff. Hardly got up a sweat. But keep waxing. And it only took 15 mins when they did. What a canter. I guess you'd think we not far off St Kilda either.

Junior will be captain in 2010. End of story.

He is 19, raw and a 2nd year rookie and needs considerable development. Your undersell what he has done this year. He is a far more capable player than I saw against the Swans in the pre season. FWIW, I think he does show hope for the future in the way he rucks and effort to compete for the contest.