I will say it now, top class players wont win a flag!

The swans lack top class players, however have a committed team or players hwo are consistent and play their guts out week in week out. The swans have lewis roberts thompson at CHB. THis guy is not talented, and he kills chfs in the comp.

The roos of the 90s were the same.

We need a team of committed players, not guys who like to finish the job and do pretty things.

We need to harden up.

Crikey. You must have missed alot of football and you could not be more wrong.

I give you six from the Swans for starters......Hall, Goodes, O'Keeffe, J. Bolton, Kirk and Kenneally.

The Roos had Carey....best footballer in the past 30 years...plus Stevens, Archer, King etc.

The thing that all premiership teams have is the commitment to a game plan.

Its not an issue of trotting out the cliche " A champion team is greater than a team of champions".

No premiership team has contained a team of champions! And no one aside the cliche vendors are saying so.

But a champion team is defined by the acts of their top six and the commitment of all to a team plan. The top six are the players who have the ability or skill in the tough challenging games that lift a side in a close contest by their own actions. Invariably that top six will contain players who are "stars" of the game.

Go through the past premiership teams of the past 15 years and each team has within their Top 6, at least 2 players who are of the highest calibre and are stars.

Say hey to H for me. ...

Will do Dappa

Crikey. You must have missed alot of football and you could not be more wrong.

The thing that all premiership teams have is the commitment to a game plan.

But a champion team is defined by the acts of their top six and the commitment of all to a team plan. The top six are the players who have the ability or skill in the tough challenging games that lift a side in a close contest by their own actions. Invariably that top six will contain players who are "stars" of the game.

...and maybe a game plan B ...but all in all, there lay the clubs terminal deficiencies. RIP.