I've updated the pre-season ladder that appeared in yesterday's Herald Sun to include yesterday's results and discovered that Melbourne faces a must win scenario against Geelong if it's to avoid getting the pre-season wooden spoon today. Means nothing but ...

TEAM...... W L D FOR AGST % PTS

BRISBANE 3 0 0 239 188 127.1 12

FREMANTLE 3 1 0 370 296 125.0 12

PORT ADELAIDE 3 1 0 383 321 119.3 12

CARLTON 3 0 0 258 232 111.2 12

GEELONG 2 1 0 272 238 114.3 8

SYDNEY 2 2 0 370 327 113.1 8

KANGAROOS 2 2 0 364 330 110.3 8

W. BULLDOGS 2 1 0 269 263 102.3 8

ESSENDON 1 2 0 270 227 118.9 4

ADELAIDE 1 3 0 321 300 107.0 4

HAWTHORN 1 2 0 241 245 98.4 4

RICHMOND 1 3 0 307 374 82.1 4

COLLINGWOOD 1 3 0 298 364 81.9 4

MELBOURNE 1 2 0 215 283 76.0 4

ST. KILDA 1 3 0 253 354 71.5 4

WEST COAST 1 2 0 201 289 69.6 4

LOL @ pre-season ladder

The Hun really will try anything to fill up their pages

Last year's premiers are sitting at the bottom & last year's wooden spooners are playing for the premiership.

Also, the rule of the highest scoring team hosting the final is stupid, because looking at that ladder clearly Brisbane have been better than Carlton in their matches.