Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted (edited)

Dear demonlanders,

Where should I start?

After going to the G for the first time in over a year and a half, I came home feeling more frustrated, confused and upset

then I ever have after watching Melbourne play. Last year I spent the whole year and season in London but still followed very

closely thanks to this site and being able to stream some games. Whilst last year was a tough year, I came home feeling excited

by the prospect of this season after reading some very positive and uplifting reviews of Melbourne's pre season form pre -nab

cup.

I'm not sure if it's supporters that are blind by love for the team. Or maybe supporters that have never played a footy match

to a relatively high standard? You may think it wouldn't make a difference, but it definitely does. What I am getting to is that it

seems that this site is only really here to bring us all to a happy place. To embrace every player and draw the positives out.

To numb minds of supporters like myself for a while and to persuade fellow readers that we have players that are

much better than most people think.

Nothing is making me more sick and infuriated than hearing talk about a premiership or finals in X amount of years. If I hear it again, I think I am

going to kill someone. Wake the f#*@& up. It's fine to dream. But I'm not falling for this "think of how good we will be in 2012". We have no idea

how good we will be then. We are basing this pathetic illogical reasoning on the fact that we have had a good few years gaining high draft picks

and assume that every single one of them will be absolute superstars !!!

There is one small problem Melbourne supporters... It's that we have the worst middle to late age group of players in the AFL and that right there

is a reality no matter what poster, what ever age, with however many posts he/she has made on this forum (thinking that they are gods gift).

We are nowhere near where people on this site think we are. Talk to someone outside of this forum. A non biased supporter of the dees like myself.

I'm all for optimism in times like this. But I am also for fixing the immediate problem. We can't keep dwelling on what the future may hold for Melbourne in

the coming years. There are so many variables in this game that can change. Injuries, contracts, player's not reaching potential etc. These are all factors that

demonlander's seem to miss when jumping out of their seat with the thought of how good our team will be one day. I don't want to talk about one day.

I want to talk about today ! I want to know why we have so many experienced players that just don't seem like they want to play AFL?

I was watching Campbell Brown on the MCC members wing on Saturday and our whole leadership group need to watch this man play. We all know players like Bruce

aren't the most skilled. Well guess what? Neither is Brown but heck he sure makes up for it with his intensity around contests. If players like Bruce had even half of that

we would be a better side. Same goes with Osborne.

I don't know if it's the clubs culture that has produced the players we have or if it's the recruiting staff? What is it? Is it Bailey?

Remember the story of Geelong? After years of sub-par performances, Bomber and the whole team sat down with each other at years end and each player assessed their

fellow team mates. They assessed and critiqued what they thought their strengths and weaknesses were. Look what has happened since...

Melbourne need to do something like this desperately, otherwise I would like to see another huge clean-out. I don't care if it means we are left with kids to fend for themselves.

Bailey needs to address this at years end.

Players that are either way over-rated by biased supporters or players that genuinely have trouble at getting the basics right at AFL and don't have the intensity to make up for it:

Bruce

Bate

Dunn

Miller

Bartram

Newton

Spencer

Martin

Macdonald

Johnson

Meeson

Other players that don't have great skill but definitely make up for it with intensity:

Jones

Mcdonald

Moloney

Rivers

Warnock (sometimes)

I have put them into two categories. These are the two biggest problems we have. We have too many players that are just all round shite, lacking both intensity and skill.

I don't know where to put Bell. I know most people on here don't rate him. But I do. He is a natural footballer with intensity and if he wasn't so unlucky with injuries

and if we consistently played him and gave him time as we did with Bate, I think he would have been a good player.

Anyway. That's my two cents. I'm sure Bailey or I bloody hope Bailey can see the problem we have with our middle to late aged players. Something needs to be done.

Look forward to being shot down...

x

Edited by stevethemanjordan

Posted

Dear demonlanders,

Where should I start?

After going to the G for the first time in over a year and a half, I came home feeling more frustrated, confused and upset

then I ever have after watching Melbourne play. Last year I spent the whole year and season in London but still followed very

closely thanks to this site and being able to stream some games. Whilst last year was a tough year, I came home feeling excited

by the prospect of this season after reading some very positive and uplifting reviews of Melbourne's pre season form pre -nab

cup.

I'm not sure if it's supporters that are blind by love for the team. Or maybe supporters that have never played a footy match

to a relatively high standard? You may think it wouldn't make a difference, but it definitely does. What I am getting to is that it

seems that this site is only really here to bring us all to a happy place. To embrace every player and draw the positives out.

To numb minds of supporters like myself for a while and to persuade fellow readers that we have players that are

much better than most people think.

Nothing is making me more sick and infuriated than hearing talk about a premiership or finals in X amount of years. If I hear it again, I think I am

going to kill someone. Wake the f#*@& up. It's fine to dream. But I'm not falling for this "think of how good we will be in 2012". We have no idea

how good we will be then. We are basing this pathetic illogical reasoning on the fact that we have had a good few years gaining high draft picks

and assume that every single one of them will be absolute superstars !!!

There is one small problem Melbourne supporters... It's that we have the worst middle to late age group of players in the AFL and that right there

is a reality no matter what poster, what ever age, with however many posts he/she has made on this forum (thinking that they are gods gift).

We are nowhere near where people on this site think we are. Talk to someone outside of this forum. A non biased supporter of the dees like myself.

I'm all for optimism in times like this. But I am also for fixing the immediate problem. We can't keep dwelling on what the future may hold for Melbourne in

the coming years. There are so many variables in this game that can change. Injuries, contracts, player's not reaching potential etc. These are all factors that

demonlander's seem to miss when jumping out of their seat with the thought of how good our team will be one day. I don't want to talk about one day.

I want to talk about today ! I want to know why we have so many experienced players that just don't seem like they want to play AFL?

I was watching Campbell Brown on the MCC members wing on Saturday and our whole leadership group need to watch this man play. We all know players like Bruce

aren't the most skilled. Well guess what? Neither is Brown but heck he sure makes up for it with his intensity around contests. If players like Bruce had even half of that

we would be a better side. Same goes with Osborne.

I don't know if it's the clubs culture that has produced the players we have or if it's the recruiting staff? What is it? Is it Bailey?

Remember the story of Geelong? After years of sub-par performances, Bomber and the whole team sat down with each other at years end and each player assessed their

fellow team mates. They assessed and critiqued what they thought their strengths and weaknesses were. Look what has happened since...

Melbourne need to do something like this desperately, otherwise I would like to see another huge clean-out. I don't care if it means we are left with kids to fend for themselves.

Bailey needs to address this at years end.

Players that are either way over-rated by biased supporters or players that genuinely have trouble at getting the basics right at AFL and don't have the intensity to make up for it:

Bruce

Bate

Dunn

Miller

Bartram

Newton

Spencer

Martin

Macdonald

Johnson

Meeson

Other players that don't have great skill but definitely make up for it with intensity:

Jones

Mcdonald

Moloney

Rivers

Warnock (sometimes)

I have put them into two categories. These are the two biggest problems we have. We have too many players that are just all round shite, lacking both intensity and skill.

I don't know where to put Bell. I know most people on here don't rate him. But I do. He is a natural footballer with intensity and if he wasn't so unlucky with injuries

and if we consistently played him and gave him time as we did with Bate, I think he would have been a good player.

Anyway. That's my two cents. I'm sure Bailey or I bloody hope Bailey can see the problem we have with our middle to late aged players. Something needs to be done.

Look forward to being shot down...

x

I agree with you.

Although Bate while slowish & with average hands is a smart footballer.

I think Martin will be usefull, but all the others I'm in agreement with you.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Wednesday 22nd January 2025

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force for training at Gosch's Paddock on Wednesday morning for the MFC's School Holidays Open Training Session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS REHAB: TMac, Chandler, McVee, Tholstrup, Brown, Spargo Brown might have passed his fitness test as he’s back out with the main group.  Sparrow not present. Kozzy not present either.  Mini Rehab group has broken off from the match sim (contact) group: Max, Trac, Lever, Fullarton

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 20th January 2025

    Demonland Trackwatcher Gator attended training out at Casey Fields to bring you the following observations from Preseason Training. GATOR'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS There were 5 in the main rehab group, namely Gawn, Petracca, Fullarton, Woewodin and Lever.  Laurie was running laps by himself, as was Jefferson.  Chandler, as has been reported, had his arm in a sling.  Lindsay did a bit of lap running later on. Some of the ''rehab 5'' participated in non contact drills and b

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 15th January 2025

    There were a number of Demonland Trackwatchers at Gosch's Paddock this morning to bring you their observations from Preseason Training. KEV MARTIN'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS They were going hard at each other. The sims were in two 15 minute blocks. The second block finished a few minutes early, they gathered and had another 7 minutes at it. I think they were asked to compete, as they would play against an opposition. There was plenty of niggle, between some of them. At the end o

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 13th January 2025

    Better late than never … and quite frankly, there’s very little to report other than that training took place at Casey Fields this morning, that Tracc was there nursing his rib injury and that some photographs are on the club’s social media including this one of Clarrie in Raging Bull stance that gives rise for confidence. The other news is that the club has a new train on player in 185cm Dandenong Stingrays midfielder Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves (love the hyphenated name which is just so fitti

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Thursday 9th January 2025

    Welcome back to Demonland for those like me who have been on vacation. I’m posting this with some trepidation because of a certain amount of uncertainty surrounding the return of preseason training in 2025 after a flurry of weddings including those of our coach, one of our superstar players and a former premiership champion player and bloke, not to mention the recent mysterious incident that occurred on the Mornington Peninsula.  I believe that the team reassembles this morning at Casey Fie

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 18th December 2024

    It was the final session of 2024 before the Christmas/New Years break and the Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force to bring you the following preseason training observations from Wednesday's session at Gosch's Paddock. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS TRAINING: Petracca, Oliver, Melksham, Woewodin, Langdon, Rivers, Billings, Sestan, Viney, Fullarton, Adams, Langford, Lever, Petty, Spargo, Fritsch, Bowey, Laurie, Kozzy, Mentha, George, May, Gawn, Turner Tholstrup, Kentfi

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 16th December 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers braved the sweltering heat to bring you their Preseason Training observations from Gosch's Paddock on Monday morning. SCOOP JUNIOR'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I went down today in what were pretty ordinary conditions - hot and windy. When I got there, they were doing repeat simulations of a stoppage on the wing and then moving the ball inside 50. There seemed to be an emphasis on handballing out of the stoppage, usually there were 3 or 4 handballs to

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 1

    TRAINING: Friday 13th December 2024

    With only a few sessions left before the Christmas break a number of Demonlander Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from this morning's preseason training session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS PLAYERS IN ATTENDANCE: JVR, Salem, McVee, Petracca, Windsor, Viney, Lever, Spargo, Turner, Gawn, Tholstrup, Oliver, Billings, Langdon, Laurie, Bowey, Melksham, Langford, Lindsay, Jefferson, Howes, McAdam, Rivers, TMac, Adams, Hore, Verrall,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Wednesday 11th December 2024

    A few new faces joined our veteran Demonland Trackwatchers on a beautiful morning out at Gosch's Paddock for another Preseason Training Session. BLWNBA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I arrived at around 1015 and the squad was already out on the track. The rehab group consisted of XL, McAdam, Melksham, Spargo and Sestan. Lever was also on restricted duties and appeared to be in runners.  The main group was doing end-to-end transition work in a simulated match situation. Ball mov

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...