I think he'll stay.

If we were to play finals in 3 years or so, and we ended up playing a game like the Hawks/Bombers game, Miller would be one of my first picked.

If he's not there, we would find ourselves in 2000GF territory very quickly. Actually, we'd probably end up in that kind of situation with or without him, but he'd certainly alleviate some of that pressure.

I agree and with a young list there is no one else to lead the forward line. With Robbo gone, Miller is the next most experienced down there. No world beater I know, but a leader nonetheless, and if things get a little willing, he's a guy you would like to have around.

I would give him another year to enable the forward line to mature a bit. I would like to think that by year's end he may be there purely for depth unless he has been able to take his game to another level. One more year on his contract will coincide with Gold Coast entering the comp which may then allow for a trade.

In the meantime, hang onto him until the forward line develops a bit more. He has been dropped before and can be dropped again, so the rest is up to him. Only if he says no to a year's extension, do we do the trade now.

True. But I'm under the impression from RR that Miller is out of contract. Have no actual knowledge of that, though.

He is out of contract in 2009.

I think he'll stay.

If we were to play finals in 3 years or so, and we ended up playing a game like the Hawks/Bombers game, Miller would be one of my first picked.

If he's not there, we would find ourselves in 2000GF territory very quickly. Actually, we'd probably end up in that kind of situation with or without him, but he'd certainly alleviate some of that pressure.

I reckon he wont.

I would rather pick players that could and would be able to play high pressure contested finals football than get sucked on the tough guy stuff. Thereason we got ourselves in 2000GF territory was that were outclassed by a superior opposition to us who were more physical and more focussed on the ball. I I am not sure what value Miller would have been to us in 2000. We have the OX playing the "tough" guy in the 2000GF and he made a goose of himself. I am not sure what value Miller would be to Hawthorn after the Lloyd express went through. He could push his chest and scowl and get really angry. Can he play the sort of football thats required for AFL finals? No. If we cant trade him then I reckon we will delist him.

And before people get sucked in to rough and tough stuff in finals, the AFL have toughed their view in recent years to players who are reported in finals. Lloyds 4 weeks would have become 8 weeks.

He shouldn't be moved on but because he stuff the contracts p he may go to make room....

I think it depends on who we draft if it is Trengove he stays, butcher he goes