I was just watching some Youtube clips of Ablett Snr, and it's easy to forget how good he was. If you were a mad scientist putting together the ultimate physical specimen for a footballer, he'd pretty much be it.

Couldn't image that you could get the "ultimate physical specimen" that ugly (ie bald and toothless).

Couldn't image that you could get the "ultimate physical specimen" that ugly (ie bald and toothless).

LOL. Ok, in terms of marketability, maybe not the ultimate specimen.

But then, you don't need hair and teeth to play footy.

I remember that too, but unlike the media I'm cutting draftees plenty of slack in their first year. Hence I didn't include Gibbs.

And fwiw, Gibbs in his third year also isn't showing that he's going to be a superstar. The media love him but he's still very much being judged on potential not output. He mops up and is a link man, but virutally never wins hard contested ball. He presently shows no more than Cale Morton.

Agreed. I must admit I don't rate Gibbs much at the moment, but my poor reasoning for this is that the media and Carlton supporters pump him up so much and at the moment he delivers very little. Morton also doesn't wear a glove inside Etihad, whereas Gibbs does. The kid's got arrogance and hasn't even delivered yet.

They do, they just don't care. They have 24/7 air/column/web/tv space to fill and WILL fil it.

Good thread. Good perspective.

True. 'Understand' us the wrong word. Take on board, would probably be better.