Dee Zephyr

Nail on head Wadda! I rarely ever throw a soccer leg in a multi mixed with other sports. The double chance option ( win/draw) maybe, even then the odds are too short. My soccer multis are basically over 2.5 goals each game. High scoring leagues such as the Dutch league, I often throw a 6-8 leg over 2.5 goals multi and hope for the best. I'm finding head to head soccer multis extremely difficult. For example a team placed 6th in League 1 of England was playing the bottom placed team at home. The odds for the 6th placed team was $2.00 and automatically you think that's great odds, they should win yeah, but then you stop and ask yourself, what do the bookies know that I don't? This team should be $1.50-$1.70. Long story short, the result 2-2. Multi gone.

Listened to the review of the Caulfield races on RSN this morning. A few points that stood out: The wind ( often a problem at Caulfield) became an issue as the day progressed. Gailo Chop set for the Australian Cup and might be hard to toss. Smart Coupe put in a terrific run after missing the start ( unusual for this horse), the start cost it 3-4 lengths and there's a win in the Carnival for the horse. Merchant Navy ran the fastest 800m, 600m and 400m of the day and along with Rich Charm could be the big players in the upcoming Newmarket. The C.F.Orr is hard to assess due to the slow running of the race. Lord Of The Sky missed the start and cost the race the expected speed. The horse eventually worked up to the pace and was wider than Tosen Stardom at stages and only tired the last 50m. Keep an eye out in future runs. Just about every horse other than the winner had a hard luck story. It was stated to assess this race as a barrier trial for some of the first-up horses and look at their next run as first-up. Single Gaze was two lengths in front of the field 50m past the post and stated to note it as a black booker. Brave Smash also a terrific run after a first-up flop.

Hi Macca, some terrific runs in there, Brave Smash, Single Gaze to a name a couple. All credit to the champ in Hartnell though. Awesome effort, just pure guts to get the nose in front. I missed out on my multi, I didn't do the 3 out of 4 like you did, just all 4 to win. That's two weeks in a row now, I think I've learned the lesson. Its been positive though, with 4 of us gathering our thoughts. Egyptian Symbol looked like the winner coming around the turn but found one just too good on the day.

In regards to other online bookies, a lot of them offer better odds and all sorts of incentives to try and lure new punters or customers of other online agencies. Every bookie except Tab will pay on the horse first past post regardless if that horse loses a protest. If the horse loses a protest they will pay out twice. That's one tool used to get a leg over the Tab.

I believe it only applies to scratchings Wadda. If you place the single bet early and there are a few scratchings you will lose some of the original price. Say there are no scratchings the day before or in the morning prior to the race but there are one or two late scratchings at the barrier you might find a deduction on your bet if it wins, all depending on the price of those late scratchings. You won't lose the original price on fixed if your horse is backed off the map and shortens in the market. I totally agree with the principle, it wasn't the $5 I was worried about with my multi, I wanted to invest in bigger odds not a single bet. It's not my fault two of my selections decided they would join the rodeo whilst at the barriers.

I closed my Tab account over a year ago, I had some issues with them leading up to the closure and at that stage I’d had enough. I only recently opened a Tab account under the wife’s name (with her permission of course) so I could utilise a new members bonus bet, plus their app is user friendly for live betting. I enjoy the soccer multis also and find it quicker on their app to place a live bet. I haven’t used Sportsbet for a few years but they seem to be as popular as ever.

Lol, I feel your pain Wadda but unfortunately that's the crap we have to put up with. I stand to be corrected but I'm sure when fixed odds betting first came out there was no disclaimer (Refunds and Deductions Apply) printed on the tickets. They probably figured it was costing them too much. While we are on a rant, the multi I placed last night at the Valley saw my first two legs scratched at the barrier leaving my 3 leg multi as a single win bet on a $2.80 pop. Where was my refund? It ended up as a losing bet because the horse in my 3rd leg couldn't run out of sight in the dark. Under the circumstances a refund would have been appropriate. I placed a multi for the bigger odds, not to back a horse at $2.80 with my $5. Rant over

The Orr delivered a brilliant finish. Thoroughly enjoyed the race even though I was cheering Brave Smash home. It's been fun today fellas, good luck for the rest of the day.

Petracca is about to race in the first at Darwin, showing $13. I'd rather watch the Christian version run around.

Strong win Wadda. Now for the rest of the "Best".

It took me a while to learn. I was one of those early days where I would follow a horse based on a horse absolutely flying home for a close up fourth or fifth in its last run. Those runs actually take a lot out of a horse and what looks like a "good thing" next start, would amount to the opposite.

Looks like the track is playing like that at the moment, although your first selection in Goldstream made up a lot of ground from last. Classic, I'll tell my mate to name his next horse "Punters Lament".

We're up and running, terrific finish to the first at Caulfield.

Show A Star into $2.00 after the scratchings. Only 5 running.

Lol, any win is a good win, the last leg is Race 8 No.9 - True Excelsior. $2.80 was its fixed price in the multi. Not sure about your question, I might have to look it up.

So.... a fella at work gave me his 3 "Best Bets" at the Valley tonight. I quickly rushed to put the multi on at $24. Leg 1 - Race 3 No.1-Despatch. Result-Scratched at barrier. Leg 2 - Race 5 No.9- Oscietra. Result- Scratched at barrier. Unbeliavable!! What are the odds for the same to happen in leg 3?

Now that you mentioned it, i must place a tri and first four straight out in numerical order. It goes with the theme of this race. Juicy odds again for the best bets combined and another selection could be added with Binman declaring his "Best".

I believe the horse above has a promising future. It's definitely a talented galloper and I'm sure it will be someone's "Best" very soon. It was scratched due to a virus or some kind of blood infection. Hopefully it's not too serious and we'll see if it can return after its short break. In regards to Show A Star, I thought the 1 and the 2 were the obvious dangers but the weight difference was the determining factor towards Show A Star.

My "Best" comes from Warwick Farm Race 8 No.4 - Show A Star.($2.60 Win) First look at the track but his last run (win) was very good. Pushed hard from a wide barrier to lead the field up, kicked away on turning and fought off a few late swoopers. Big drop in the weights from last start will see him carry 53.5kg. There are one or two in the field with early speed so it will be interesting to see if Tim Clark goes for the lead or if he'll be happy to take a sit just off the leaders. Currently it's only a 7 horse field, the $1.60 for the place might appeal to some that fancy the horse for a top 2 finish. Happy Punting!

I was browsing the form for the following race and noticed that each horse has drawn the same barrier as their saddlecloth. I don't recall ever seeing that with a random barrier draw. https://www.racenet.com.au/racing-form-guide/caulfield-20180210/schweppes-rubiton-stakes-race-6 Tricky race, does anyone think Rich Charm is a bit over the odds?

Lol Macca, I've only looked briefly at the Warwick Farm races and Egyptian Symbol is the one that stood out to me also. I also like Brave Song in R6 but it's up against Kementari. Kementari's form was very good prior to its Coolmore run back in the spring. Not sure if I want to declare Brave Song as my "Best" yet. I will do some more studying when I get home later.

Thanks Wadda. It was a terrific return for Ace High I thought. I see he's in the 4th line of betting for the Chipping Norton at $26 behind Winx of course but from the above I'm not tempted to have an early go at those odds.

Wow, don't be losing those tickets Wadda, glad they came to the party though. The only time they have been good to me is when I scanned a losing ticket just for the hell of it on the EBT one day and to my surpise it made that nice sound of " you have credit", it wasn't a huge amount but satisfying nonetheless.

Yes, it will pay out if your remaining selections win. Not at the original odds though.

By the way, we have ignited this thread, it's listed as "Hot" in the topic listing. Awesome work fellas.