Ted Lasso

If you want further evidence of Fremantle being amateurs at the trade table under peter bell... look at their pursuit of Tim kelly. The guy who says he doesn’t want to go there. They needed to hold their nerve and jump in on the last day when things were tight to have any chance. Played that card wayyyyyy too early

Peter bell and Fremantle are right on the edge of turning the certain signing of a big fish into yet another missed opportunity all due to a breathtaking level of arrogance. If this falls through it will not only make Fremantle the laughing stock of the Comp, it will cause huge bad blood between Jesse and freo given freo promised to offer that pick 5 or 6 at the trade table and so far have back flipped on that.

Better cash in on Angus brayshaw while he’s worth 3 first rounders

King brothers have significant go home factor interstate clubs are aware of and if drafted by an interstate club it will only be one confident of getting both of them to lessen that. Freo would be silly to draft an unproven king brother with go home factor with the same pick that could have locked up jesse hogan, a proven key forward and as you say set up their forward line for the next decade. Fremantle also won’t get him cheap next year, it will likely cost them a strong first round pick minimum to get a deal done, and they run the risk of Jesse deciding to stay or Another club like west coast getting involved with Kennedy another year older. The strategy you have proposed is full of risks for fremantle who could achieve a better outcome tomorrow if they’d pull their heads out of it and accept our very reasonable trade request

Just a young man doing his due dilligence on a rival offer. Very common place and there are plenty of players who’d done this and gone back to the clubs they were at. There is nothing in the article that tells you he wants to be a demon or docker more.

To add to this, Langdon has stayed with the pies, the suspicion was the pies needed him to go to get a trade over the line. I have no doubt the club will have considered the possibility of trying to sign may if the Jesse deal implodes further but I reckon you’re right and Tuesday the Neale deal will fall and set off a domino effect sending hogan to freo, May to us and pick 5 to the suns and we will get something else for hogan as well

I agree, and I get peter bell is trying to establish that he isn’t a push over or whatever but we have shown we are happy to pay slight overs or receive slight unders to get deals done quickly with no fuss 5&23 to me is slight unders but a fair win-win

What’s worse is jesses manager was told they were happy to use 5 or 6 on the deal by Fremantle and then they back flipped on it when negotiations started. Not a great way to do business but Brisbane and the giants are having as much trouble as us

Trade radio last year mentioned freos pursuits multiple times, as well as dozens of articles, as well as the year before. I’m not sure how you’ve missed that. Not that it matters. It’s stupid to think he’s going there on a short term, low ball deal. Not in a million years minimum 5 years, minimum 900k.

Based on the fact it’s been widely reported he’s received long term offers of over a million dollars per season, over the past few years I think it’s safe to assume it’s the same again. Or he’d stay at the dees, collect his 850 k next year and have a crack at a flag. I think it’s unrealistic to think he’d leave us to go to freo for a 2 year 600k deal... i believe this is a negotiation tactic because no one heard any of this until freo started negotiations, then suddenly there are rumours flying everywhere about Jesse. And yet freo are still willing to offer pick 11 and a second rounder plus what is presumably a sizeable contract for him. Issues can’t be that bad can they? They want Melbourne to budge and I’m very confident if we hold firm peter bell as arrogant as he is will realise it’s a massive failure from him personally to fail to sign jesse when he was as close to a sure thing as you can get. Perhaps if these rumours were around half way through the year dees fans might have taken them more seriouly but they weren’t because Jesse was right in the mix for the Coleman and all Australian at the time

What I find interesting is that Fremantle have been chasing Jesse for years, surely they know him inside and out by now, I don’t understand why they would make him a long term offer, offer us a deal that we were never going to accept but still quite a lot and go all this way if there was some major Off field issue making him damaged goods. I’ve got no doubt if Jesse went to josh Mahoney today and said I want to sign for 7 years we’d sign without hesitation.

This is all being piggie backed off the same rumours freo tried to spread around. If he were damaged goods, freo wouldn’t have offered him a truck load of cash, and wouldn’t have offered picks 11 and 20 odd. This is a weird, amateur negotiation tactic and the media are totally misreading it. And it’s pretty annoying they run with this stuff with no basis for it.

Oh god... they’re painfully delusional..

For anyone who can’t stand freo/peter bell this will make it worse, talks for Jesse have not stopped, they aren’t on hold and talks are locked in to continue early next week. Not sure what games freo are playing but don’t make a public statement saying you’re not interested and keep talks going. What a joke.

Don’t agree at all but I do think the AFL need to give freo a clip around the ears because four young men are currently in limbo due to their unwillingness to deal fairly with clubs. They chase these guys for years, finally convince them and then refuse to come to the party at all trade wise it’s insulting and disrespectful and will hurt them badly in the long run. So far there is no way to judge bells appointment but a failure

I doubt this rumour is true but GCS could offer him crazy coin

I thought the statement freo made was pretty embarrassing, it felt a bit like throwing the toys out of the cott and giving Melbourne a clip on the way out. I suspect that’s why our offer was released to purple to just show what we were dealing with. Melbourne, the giants and Brisbane have all complained about the way freo are doing business this trade period. Freo could have had Lobb, hogan and pick 11 in the draft if they didn’t behave like this

I can give you a summary - vic bias media -hogan always injured - dees asking way too much for hogan - he’s a free agent next year lots of absolute dribble.

We’ve shown we are happy to accept unders or pay overs to get deals done. We don’t muck around. 5-23 to me is slight unders for hogan but we’d happily taken, bring in May and move on

seems to be getting around that even within freo people are butting heads over this. Bell claiming our asking price is too high. There is zero value to this deal from our point of view if it doesn’t result in us landing may. Simple as that. Basically any deal that gets that done I suspect we would accept

Freos supporters just scream “VIC BIAS” any time a journo is critical of Fremantle.

I guarantee you he’d be firmly on the side of angry. Freo have been chasing him for years and the moment they actually get him they offer an insulting deal and then pull out of the race the moment the dees don’t bend over and take it.

Would you counter with just pick 5 for hogan for the sake of just getting May in, or wait and hope freo fold? i believe it is some kind of ploy from freo who believe we want May desperately and will accept unders to make it happen

It just doesn’t sit with me that they’d chase Jesse for the last 6 years including before he was at Melbourne offer him a truckload if cash get him over there for the tour for four hours get his hopes up, finally convince him to join them. And then only low ball us but make an offer they know we won’t accept and refuse to budge. It’s insulting to us and especially to Jesse. This is absolute amateur hour from the freo people.

I’m speechless. Fremantle really are a joke.