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    4 hours ago, Sydney_Demon said:

    I totally agree Melbourne weren't good enough. I wasn't making excuses for them losing. My point was it wasn't game style that beat us. Similarly, it wasn't because we were soft. Last year people said the same thing. That our attitude was wrong. That our game style was wrong. Also absolute BS. We lost finals last year because we were banged up, couldn't run games out, and didn't put the Swans & Lions away in the first halves of our finals when we dominated. It's so easy for fans & 'experts' to re-write history based on results. Last year Geelong had the softest draw of all time for a top team (gifted 4 games by playing North and the Eagles twice) & had easy Prelim & Grand Final against teams that had effectively played their Grand Finals the week before. If Geelong had lost their Qualifying Final to Collingwood who knows who would have been Premiers? The same applied for Melbourne this year. In 2021 Melbourne had all the luck, the last 2 years it's been the opposite. Attitude isn't the issue.

    For the AFL it's all about the optics. Michael Christian didn't want to even cite Maynard because he felt it was a football action. He was overridden. Of course when Maynard got off the AFL didn't appeal. They got exactly what they wanted. It looks like they did the right thing by Brayshaw and are absolved from the final outcome.   

    I'd suggest their game plan is actually  the problem and it has been exposed .

    The defence is supreme which keeps them in the games. 

    There was meant to be a tweak in the early season but it went back to the habitual bash and hoof it long and high pretty quick .

    Why didn't the FD put their foot down?

    I haven't questioned the players effort,courage or commitment. 

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    4 hours ago, BDA said:

    Greene plays better when the oppo try to intimidate him. Maynard will go to work on someone else

    Maynard will play just  the way he plays..its a pity he and Gus arnt both Demons,or that Viney isn't 192 cms( that would be better)

    19 minutes ago, Sydney_Demon said:

    What? Let's state the actual facts here. Melbourne should have won both finals this year. The problem wasn't our game style. It was purely and simply execution (plus injuries to key players at the wrong time). If Brayshaw had played against Carlton & Collingwood (he played the first 5 minutes) we would have won. If Van Rooyen had played against Carlton we would have won. If Melksham & Petty weren't out we would have won both finals. If we had kicked remotely straight and had a decent amount of luck we would have won.

    What exactly have Collingwood achieved so far? Didn't make the Grand Final last year and are in the Prelim this year when they don't deserve to be. We have absolutely nothing to learn from Collingwood's game style. Other sides have now worked them out. A good team but not a great one.  

    Total BS. Melbourne aren't a soft team. We didn't lose either game because we were soft. Poor execution, yes. Lapses in concentration at key times, yes. What an idiotic comment about social work. Ben Brown clearly has chronic injury concerms and I'm happy he's making a difference to the world if he's not playing. Have his social work activities caused his inability to get on the park? NO. We play in Alice Springs for purely financial reasons. If we are there why wouldn't we support the local community?

    Your " facts" are full of clairvoyant nonsense. 

    They list becsuse of multiple fact...ors; the primary one was that they weren't good enough .

    I agree the Pies arnt good enough either...they beat a bashed up MFC by only 7 points!!

    What they did do last season was show how to attack the goal with speed ,skill and a running pattern that could provide a random player appearing free on the fat side to attack goal.

    And they hold there structure and plan regardless which is why they win the  ones.

    I think Brisbane has developed a more complete team and will beat GWS at the G in a couple of weeks.

    Mostlt injury free pretty much like MFC in 21

    If your good enough you win

    Melbourne as  of now

     

    1 minute ago, waynewussell said:

    When I was a kid, all the big boys at primary school wore number 31. It’s the main reason I’m a Demons supporter to this day. Our hearts broke when he left for Carlton in 1965. Still, he gave us something to cheer about when the Demons were in the doldrums, with his success coaching Carlton, and later North Melbourne. We were over the moon when he eventually returned to MFC in 1981. I was at The Western Oval in round 3 of that year for his first win coaching his old club. Melbourne kicked 6 goals in the final quarter to get up by one point. I think Robbie kicked a goal after the siren. I jumped the fence and made a beeline for the coaches’ box as Melbourne fans invaded the oval. Halfway across I saw Barassi charging through the crowd in the opposite direction. Unfortunately, a little girl crossed his path and the legend tripped. It occurs to me that that little girl succeeded where many fierce opponents had failed; she brought down the great man!

    In round 14, later that year, Melbourne played St Kilda at Moorabbin. I used to sneak into the clubrooms whenever the opportunity arose by nonchalantly acting as though I belonged. On that day I found myself in the inner sanctum, hot pie in hand, while the Reserves were playing the curtain-raiser. Hoping to avoid detection, I stood by a whiteboard which listed the team positions for the match. I heard a familiar voice behind me, “Excuse me mate, who are you?” It was Ron... “I’m just a supporter”, I offered. “Jesus... Who let this guy in?” Ron yelled in the direction of the doorman. I was swiftly escorted to the exit by a red-faced attendant.

    Many years passed before my next face to face encounter with Ronald Dale. He released his Biography in 2010 and I attended the book launch. He was charming and obliging. I mentioned that I had been a follower since those early days at primary school. I also took a few photos.

    It was wonderful that Ron was with us to hold the Premiership Cup again after Melbourne’s triumph in 2021. He always added 17410 to his signature; 17 grand finals, four clubs, 10 premierships. For me it now reads 18411. RIP, Ronald Dale.

    "If it's to be its up to me"

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    47 minutes ago, Kent said:

    I meant reflection on his own performance Totally oblivious to our problems and his roll in it

    The real question put earlier shouldn't have been "genius or insane "; rather it might have been " stubborn or unaware" 

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    4 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    YES

    Desperately want a Lions v GWS grand final and wipe that smerk of disbelief off  Voss's face.

    No  way Maynard goes after Mr Toby or any other player. They'd rip that dogs head off.

     Melbourne are still  considered soft in some aspects otherwise Maynard wouldnt have slaughtered Brayshaw. Why didnt Melbourne make his game hell?

    MFC have to shutdown all this social work nonesense. Ben Brown spent most of the season hanging with children. Hes the highest paid social worker in Australia on 650k ?

    Shutdown Alice Springs and all that feel good nonesense that goes with it.

    We look soft. Its  just a fact so get over it. If we dont toughen up we'll go out in straight sets again.

     

     

     

    It took Scott a long time to change the Geelong game and they had footy IQ superstars in their team.

    Can we wait 10 years for the penny to drop?

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    13 minutes ago, Tracca said:

    That being said they work amazing together imo.

     

    chandler is a poor man’s kozzie and I don’t think we can really play all 3 together 

    Putting some pressure on the automatic selection of Kossi might help him develop...

    It's been a while and the only thing that's changed is he's put on weight so he can bump.

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    55 minutes ago, gs77 said:

    On that, wouldn't the AFL be relishing the boon a QLD or NSW team's success would have for the growth of the game up there? Particularly a maiden GWS flag? 

    Personally I'd love nothing more than seeing the Pies and blues fall short next weekend.

    Yeah there's that as well and certainly NSW and Qld TV numbers will be at least  75% of the Matildas numbers(with  about a similar 45% who have any idea at all what's happening)

    I guess I really meant the Hun and it's leading [censored] Robbo

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    23 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

    What happened with the no ruck contest up fwd. Happened about four times. Was Tmac off the ground?

     

    TMac couldn't actually get off the ground, that was the problem;he was playing in rehab .

    At least they let Grundy do his rehab in the VFL.."Horse "says thanks very much Simon !

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    51 minutes ago, gs77 said:

    He did. Literally the first words of his presser were "I'm feeling like probably every Melbourne supporter and all the players next door there - pretty shattered."

    All I want to hear soon is that( given they cant get rid of him now) they are going through the line coaches like a hurricane, reviewing Goodwins  year,getting someone to assist/ monitor him.

    Then...paying out injured forwards and using draft picks for a strong marking target up forward and speed and skill add ons to the list 

    It's not difficult

    I don't even  care if Goodwin pays someone to do his pressers so he can concentrate on his learnings 

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    18 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

    I’m all for GWS knocking the pies out in a prelim. 

    A Brisbane / GWS..Grand Final would be everything the AFL DONT  want and a celebration for most of the  majority of  the AFL's supporter base

    Hilarious

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    1 hour ago, BDA said:

    The Giants were excellent last night (other than goal-kicking in the second half). I wish we could play like that.

    We definitely need some new assistant coaches who can help evolve a more corridor-based plan. The game has moved on and i fear we're getting left behind. 

    " getting " left behind?..anyone who stopped being silly and watched the Pies LAST season saw MFC was already left behind.

    There was a learning there unless you had  remedial reading skills

     

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    1 hour ago, BW511 said:

    I’d also be asking the club to have a think about the role Jake Lever plays.

    He is an excellent interceptor but in the same manner as our forwards being defenders first, he’s not flash at actually defending.

    I don’t think there’s any reason for a captaincy change, I certainly wouldn’t be giving it to Trac. 

     

    Or Clarrie 

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    1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

    You are kidding mate.  This team although inaccurate absolutely give their all every week and there is no way people can question their effort.  They are a brutal footy team and we just need a key forward.   A fit Petty will slot in down back again next year and if we can wrench a ready made power forward from somewhere to stand with JVR we will back bigger than better 

    There's no doubt they give it a red hot go..but sans poise,skill and elite decisions.

    That's more than needing one key forward.

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    3 hours ago, jacey said:

    Ironically we have Ben Brown, Jake Melksham, Tom McDonald to add to JVR and petty who are all excellent set shots but unfortunately none played last night.  

    Ironically because three of them should retire even if they have to be paid out.

    And we don't actually know how good JVR might become,nor Petty on a sample of 3 or 4 games forward.

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