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Is Heritier there? I thought I saw a news grab on ch7 last night of him back at the club.

So different to the Mitch Clark, Dawes and even Lumumba trades where we get a decent player not just because we are throwing heaps of cash at them. A great day for us. Lewis will bring much needed support for Nathan Jones and I reckon it will also help Viney

Worth a rookie spot. I would also look at James Stewart from GWS. Whatever we do, we need someone. Spencer was great when we beat the Cats last year, but since then he has been ordinary. Minson and Campbell killed him in the GF.

I spoke with H at the Casey vs Williamstown game. It was good to see him there supporting the boys. He told me that the concussion issues were all gone and that he will definitely be back in 2017. Jayden Hunt is a younger, better version of H and with Hibberd coming in I don't know where there is a spot for him unless it's in the back pocket. I'd still rather have him than Mitch Clark who we effectively swapped him for.

Agree - cannot work out what Dunn has done so wrong. Roos made him Vice Captain and now refuses to play him - maybe he has had a crack at Tammie. Starting to remind me of when Daniher wouldn't play Lamb.

I didn't see the incident where he was concussed, does anyone know what happened? I am also a bit worried that he is listed as indefinite. I hope he hasn't lost the passion to play.

Really???? It's posts like this that remind me why I shouldn't read this absolute drivel. He has been very good. Apart from denigrating a player, have a look at the game he plays. Oh, I forgot, Roos knows absolutely nothing about player value, that's why Dunn is Vice Captain. Don't bother replying, you morons who bag our players, this will be the last time I visit this site. Next time you look in the mirror, have the guts to ask yourself how many pre seasons you did. How many times you played a sport with injury. How many sprains, breaks and bruises you've had. How many times your body has been buffeted by blokes bigger than you, and what does Dunn do? Commit to the club. Stop kidding yourselves that you know anything about the game let alone our players.

A kid at school asked me today who my favourite player was - I said Vanders. Tough, tackles like a machine, relishes the opportunity to pull on a jumper and is fearless. Matt Jones - would not have been my choice. Juice Newton would have been or the Stretch boy.

Did anyone listen to Jim Tilbrook last night on SEN with Finey? It was great listening. On Robbie Flower's debut at Geelong, Jim kicked 6 and Glenn Swan kicked 8! I wonder what happened to Swann - he only played one year for us. Does anyone know? Tilbrook played in 5 premierships before coming to us. My vague and distant best memory is one day on the G before a game, he was having shots at goal and roosted one with a torpedo from a very long way out.

Good to hear that Beamer and Col were there. If we got Roos after Bailey instead of Neeld, Beamer would have stayed. Not sure if anyone would have got the best out of Col, but it would have been good to see him for a couple of years under Roos and George Stone.

1. My dad got off a boat from Italy in the mid fifties, when all the Italians went to Carlton, he liked the MCG and started taking me there in 1969. 2. Very first favourite was probably Gary Hardeman. Just loved his marking and dash across half back. Should never have left us midway through his career and gone to S.A. 3. In Feb 2007, my six and a half year old son was diagnosed with a malignant brain tumour. We asked for the WIZ to come into the RCH. He did. I asked him to dedicate his first goal of 1997 to Joshua. We played the Kangaroos on the Thursday before Good Friday - round one of that year. Kangaroos coming off a premiership. At the first bounce, Stynes taps the ball, Lyon gathers, handballs to Wiz who goals. Wiz pumps the air like we asked him to. Josh was there with me. Best moment ever. We only won three more games that year, making that round one victory more miraculous. My son is now 24 and follows the Dees 4. Worst moments? I was there for 186 and 148 against Geelong and Essendon. Schwarz's knee, Jimmy's death, getting smashed in two Grand Finals. Hard to pick one, but I'd probably go Brock McLean and the tanking saga. 5. Whatever happens, I am rusted on. A 39 year consecutive member (I will be 52 on Thursday) I will NEVER stop supporting our club

I usually pre-empt my posts with 'I rarely post" however, some of the comments on here, particularly this thread border on the ridiculous. Leigh Matthews said yesterday that the BIGGEST problem facing clubs is lack of inside fifties and then scoring from those inside fifties. We won the inside fifty count and just kicked badly. We have won games in the last two years where the opposition kicked badly, had many more inside fifties and lost - Essendon being the classic example in 2014. Twenty five shots at goal not counting two or three out on the full is good. What lost us the game was really poor forward pressure and poor forward set up. No changes for mine. Unless some of the youngsters are battered and bruised, keep the team as is.

I am a very infrequent poster on Demonland. One thing I would say is that I would definitely give Cross one more year. I said to him today that I would like to see him run around again. He said to me "Tell Roosy". He is keen. It worries me a lot that Vandenberg says that Cross is the most professional person at the club. It does not say a lot for anyone else there. Cross is definitely worth another contract, even if he plays 11 games at Casey and 11 with the Seniors. We still need good solid citizens and blokes who don't panic. It was his kick last year to Salem that won us the game against Essendon.

The fact is that most good teams have an absolute gun forward and another very capable forward. Cloke and White. Franklin and Tippett. Roughhead and Gunston. Pavlich and Taberner, Kennedy and Darling, Cameron and McCarty, Taylor Walker and Jenkins etc etc That's why Geelong went after Clark. Hawkins and Clark fit and firing makes it tough for any backline. We have a 20 year old gun forward and Chris Dawes. We need another forward. Pederson isn't the answer, Watts will never be a key forward. When we were decent, we had Neitz, Schwarz and Robbo, all dangerous. Having said all of that, when was the last time we kicked 18 goals at any game, let alone at the cattery. What we need is a strong forward and continuing to expect/demand that wingers and midfielders kick goals.

Was there today and as gutted as anyone else. Riewoldt always kills us. With the inside 50 count e were lucky to be in front with 40 seconds left. Last year we did to Essendon what St Kilda did to us. That's footy. We are still 4-5 players out of our best team - Kent, Frost, Garland and possibly Dawes. I wish we had the bye next week, but we don't - we need to suck it up and take it to the cats. Hogan will be a star as will Brayshaw. Stretch looks ok and Toumpas was v.good. Garlett was Shiite - he is a downhill skier.

Re Toumpas - He did not tunnel ball the sherrin through the goals. He did not kick it straight to A Collngwood player as Dunn and Viney did He did not let Elliot outmark him in the goalsquare - 2 players 195cms did that I get as frustrated as anyone with him but he is worth persevering with. He needs to take a look at Brayshaw and be prepared to back himself.

I visit this site every now and then, read some posts but rarely post myself. I am 51, went to my first game in 1969, and watched the game yesterday at the Bentleigh club with my 24 year old son. Our malaise is generational. All of the top teams have three A grade midfielders. We have Jones who some consider A grade and others consider him B grade. We have a lot of nice blokes on our team who I am sure are affable, decent men - Watts, Bail, Toumpas, Fitzy etc. What we need are some blokes who will do anything to get the ball and hurt the opposition. Brayshaw is a start, Jones and Vanders also. I have watched thousands of games. Watts is not a footballer. He's a kid from Brighton who happened to be tall and fast and could kick. Has to go. Then there is our deplorable recent history of wasted top 20 picks - Maric, Blease, Strauss, Cook, Gysberts, Tapscott and I've probably missed a few. The ONLY thing that makes me not lose total faith is remembering how Northey and Daniher turned us around. The difference between then and now is that Northey and Daniher were coaches whereas Roos is a consultant. I just needed to vent!

Given his limited pre season and woeful delivery he did well today. He is not going to have the impact he did at Collingwood because we don't have Thomas, Pendlebury and Swan kicking it to him, but given the number of inside fifties today he made the most of them.

The last line is stating the obvious. We need wins, For the players, for the coaches and for us. We also need some luck with injuries. No club IMO suffered more as a result of injuries.

No, I am not suggesting that at all - why do you ask that question? I am not sure hat you mean. This is about establishing another tradition.

I have not posted on here before but I have on Demonology. I am a 36 year consecutive member and love th club. I have started a thread on the other site proposing that we adopt a song or chant that we sing when we might be well in front and will clearly win. This is similar to soccer in the Uk and can sometimes have an incredible effect. I have thought for a long time that there is nothing that defines us as a supporter base. We are not an army nor do we have strength in numbers like others. We now have an opportunity to change that and do so in a way that remembers Jimmy. I have emailed Chis Connolly about this idea because it is one thing that should come from the club. He has indicated that he is going to ensure that this discussion occurs at the appropriate level So, keep your eyes and ears open and I will keep you informed as soon as I hear anything. Wouldn't it be amazing if in five years from now Jack Trengove kicks a goal at the twenty minute mark of the last qrt in the grand final ensuring we cannot lose. The crowd erupts in a song that reflects the legacy Jim left, and we are able to explain to international visitors and five year olds why we are singing that song.

I have not posted on here before but I have on Demonology. I am a 36 year consecutive member and love th club. I have started a thread on the other site proposing that we adopt a song or chant that we sing when we might be well in front and will clearly win. This is similar to soccer in the Uk and can sometimes have an incredible effect. I have thought for a long time that there is nothing that defines us as a supporter base. We are not an army nor do we have strength in numbers like others. We now have an opportunity to change that and do so in a way that remembers Jimmy. I have emailed Chis Connolly about this idea because it is one thing that should come from the club. He has indicated that he is going to ensure that this discussion occurs at the appropriate level So, keep your eyes and ears open and I will keep you informed as soon as I hear anything. Wouldn't it be amazing if in five years from now Jack Trengove kicks a goal at the twenty minute mark of the last qrt in the grand final ensuring we cannot lose. The crowd erupts in a song that reflects the legacy Jim left, and we are able to explain to international visitors and five year olds why we are singing that song.