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Perhaps we all need to reappraise our KPP fixation Players now appear to need to be more flexible With forwards needing defensive skills and defenders being swung into forward and midfield roles with attack and run so important to be able to cater for injuries or match up or just poor form the mix and match combinations seem to be what coaches are looking for. The game has progressed and the MFC squad appears well placed to be at the forefront with that style of player.

Its true GWS forward had less opportunity and were playing a solid unit in MFC defence which has had to endure much more pressure but PAtton and Cameron both did look good at times. HOWEver and Watts were even better and are beginning to show the benefits of the steady development occuring at MFC yesterdays efforts really did show that our development is ahead of GWS as it should be despite their advantages at draft and we do have some exciting youth and when our senior players are able to use their strenght we are very competitive. The best feature of the weekend was that with Casey and Melb we can see that we have a good squad with players competeing in all positions. It is probably a little too much to expect physically underdeveloped youth to compete week after week in what is a very physically demanding game without making errors as long as they learn from the errors they will continue I look forward to watching Patton and Cameron and if they are available would add to our squad but I look much more joyously at our equivalents.

I like the start can close shop and get home to see most of the game. Weather miserable here so the fire the footy and a ..... victory was where I was heading GO DEES

Caught the last 3 qs on tv and there was much to like. Most of it indicated in the thread by others. Perhaps the conditions meant I did not see some of the run and delivery into the forwards that I have seen from Casey previously perhaps KC or other consistent poster could comment. Couch didnt seem as dominant as previous posts have indicated but did like his calmness with the last shot. There was another player who looked good NO 26 not sure who that was today but did some very usefulk work within and on fringes of packs, Our domination of ball into the forward line was great but Sandys defence seemed to always be deeper and have an extra player/ Our delivery was haphazard and to contests or over the back to unmanned Sandy player rather than being directed to a player on their own or leading into space? BUT will take the win and hope for same today

Thanks for that I reckon Il close up shop at 2 and take my weary body home for some R&R Weary coz team won our local (Milawa) squash premiership last night we wear the red and blue colours but our emblem is the rampant wine bottles.

Thanks KC following you now with interest for your comprehensive cover

Talented Or Mercenary $ Can't Undo Lies Little Yob

An unfortunate reference in this game is that the AFL has supported this project above other matters. It was the same with Sydney Adelaide West Coast Port and Fremantle when they were introduced. of those teams only FReo have not produced the flag as justification of the success of the team. It is surely that success that builds or perhaps in truth maintained the supporter base. GWS is an opportunity to really grow the supporter base and so will be pursued at any cost by AFL when can we expext a GWS flag? and will it be before the Demons next> I can see only negatives for the MFC with the lead up to the match . Nothing less than a huge crowd of Melbourne supporters cheering their team to a ten goal win will be reported as a success for the MFC. Even if we do win by the 10 goals it will be reported that this is what is expected by aMelbourne team more advanced than the above mentioned pimply faced kids. and No doubt there will be more reporting of T$ reception and ststs than any other player action. Watts will need to kick 10 goals or have 40 possessions to even be considered against any T$ action and heaven help us if T$ is injured by anything less than a self imposed injury I hope that this weekend will quickly be over and we can concentrate on the fortunes of our own players I think we have more than enough good and bad issues to confront. In fact the snow is looking most welcome just wish I could get there.

It was always fantastic to see Swarta You knew when he played he always played with passion and who could forget the game on his return there was a real atmosphere in the air the first time he ran for the ball and the exhalation when he turned and kicked was one of the most exciting times at the G It was cruel that he was affected by the punt and inspirational that he has apparently overcome that demon He may feel difficult at the club because of his existing media role but he should know he will always be welcomed among and by the supporters. Hopefully there will be atime when he is able to join with his fellow players and they can all revel in the success they had which leads to even greater success for the club A flag heals many wounds I would think.

How about For Jimmys sake Thats why we're trying we dont need scully and we're not lying

its funny how easily you forget Only fond memories of stretcher but boy seeing that video makes me think how well he compares to others of his vintage clear eyed erudite and seems to have the coaching vernacular down pat still has passion for Dees it would seem you could do worse for somone to review likely SA talent

NOt sure with this I agree wholeheartedly with the detestation (if thats a word ) with T$ actions particularly the lying and lack of effort obvious to all Also agree that the money throwing and booing would appear Tawdry and pathetic particularly if we lose the footy game Perhaps a better act would be to ignore the $hit and just cheer even more loudly to support our guys intimidate the umpires to give us the free kicks and ignore any close call against T$ when the game is done and we have won direct our cheers to our boys and let the$ know the sort of support and passion that exists in the MFC can never be his. If throwing the money at this point make sure it is understood that it is tainted and will never be worth the MFC allegiance he has lost. Take the money and run and keep on running. Make him want to not come back

JUst shows whats possible Eh Perhaps MJ needs to review this?

So thats whats wrong with Cherries these days If I could only find that I blame Jack Watts thread now

Theres many from the first game at the Junction oval with my dad when I was supposed to become a sints supporter and Tassie bob Brian Dixon and Big Bob convinced me that the Deees were the place to be. My best mate (collingwood supporter) and I playing the games out on their farm yard front lawn Gary hardeman Hassa Mann BArrassi only over the radio and on TV The MCG any time Being belted by Fitzroy one day at Carlton Being spat on at Victoria park The doggies at the Kennel Robbie flower magic and Grinter (the Jaw breaker) we heard it across the ground Being spat on at Adelaide (bit of pattern developing there) THe Wiz 7 goals ??? against the pies Jacko Jackovich Swarta Lyon any time Febeys Wheels The JAcks this generation God theres too many memories to trawl through each one brings on more Great thread worth a visit often just to remind us why we have this insane passion

Run my own business in Beechworth 7 days weekends most important for trade does interfere with my skiing time as well

I have always maintained that skiers are from the same broad cross section of the population as anything else. I have always seen more Collingwood scarves worn on the slopes than Melbourne. If anything North and Richmond supporters seem the most prevalent of colours. BUT that said I have also maintained to the club that we should market off OUR reputation and get a sponsorship from snow clothing , snow boots , snow cars etc. Its the perception thats important in marketing.

Good on Sheeds for trying to whip something up The snow report is not that promising anyway Better later in the season when conditions are better. wont be there working as usual but hope to be able to catch the game on the screen GO DEES

BB have seen your passion for the club throughout the site so do not doubt your intensity but I am sure the "Widget" expression does neither yourself, the players or administrators any justice. We all are or have been paid in some form and as you rightly say some work and reciprocate some dont. Astute managers analyse and develop the features that are needed to gain the reciprocal return on an investment.Players not reciprocating to my ideal may still be meeting the challenge of the coach. Even the worst widget has a value and function unless it is is broken or has been incorrectly specified. even then astute mangers try and salvage something. Widgets are a little easier to place than a complex human being. Widgets being a simple purpose designed article do not have the same flexibility that we expect of human beings. I am aligned to all on the list as they are Melbourne players I want them all to train to an intensity that they become valuable players I hope that the coach can get the maximum value out of all our players I want success but understand that the measurement of success is not the same for everyone I want the coach to use his experience and skill to use the players to gain wins and the ultimate prize ( the flag) I want Dunn Bate and every melbourne player to give their all for the club and if that is not sufficient to get to my ideal leave respected for having done that. I dont want them to think they are one dimensional widgets. I want them to be able to display the passion you have.

It seemed to me that we kick to him on a majority of kickouts and while he makes a contest he is usually surrounded by oposition players who feed off him. Where are our loose players? Why dont we kick to them until Jamar is one out and se if he can take a mark? He does seem to get some possesions becuase he always handballs off. This is so predictable that the opponents are able to man up on the receiver and put more pressure on. Why not tell him to kick to one of our players in space?

Good point JM but even pain can be positive.

Looking a bit grim KC. I'm off to see the local Beechworth boys. Very much a development exercise but I am continuing my character building

Have enjoyed all on this post even if the topic may have beeen derailed sometimes Keep up the banter it does divert from some of the more painful aspects of supporting the DEES.

WOW I really have to rethink my criticism of the umps Thanks Skills32

I thoght the throwing the tv bit was avery amusing lighthearted comment on what is obviously a divisive issue for Demon supporters. I suppose no player has ever made a mistake in the pressure of a match nor received a spray from the coach coz so many think this is unusual I must have been at too many matches and watched too much footy and I cant remember the perfect game played by anyone. \Its the mistakes; How you handle them, how you learn from them and how you develop from them thats more important. Wether Morton reads this or the article is probably less important than how he develops from it I saw him do some good things some ordinary things some hopeless things He wasnt alone. Why and How these acts occurred will need some reflection but he needs to concentrate on the good things and keep them coming I have been ambivalent on Morton and others but Crikey Id love to see the bloke play to his max more often coz I too reckon he just might have it.