Norm Smith's Curse

Interesting. Time will tell unless your bluffing as well lol. What I was told was that we are interested in toumpas and that viney is locked in.

Hell's gate. Are you actually from the club? Are you sure we won't take viney first round if need be? I have a source willing to bet his car that we are bluffing on Viney and will take him at pick 3 if required in a heart beat. I can't give his name but he should know. Thanks.

Col Sylvia deserves more than 4.5

I tend to think he will get picked up as a depth player for Essendon or Port.

What would restore your confidence in MFC if it has been dented by the happenings of 2012 and now the departure of some experienced players? Finding out that the offer to Brendan Goddard that was too good to refuse was from the Demons? Finding out that three decent midfielders have some how materialised and are ready to come to the club? LOL Signing a new midfield coach and new recruiting team? Or just a couple of surprises come trade period?

There were those stories of Neeld peeling the paint off the walls with his vitriolic sprays at some of the players. LOL.

Well said. This is the cull we wanted deep down. its time to start year one of a three-five year rebuild. No one likes it but its true.

Id like to say that I mean no disrespect to any of these guys personally. Just the way I think it will fall.

12 to 15: Gawn already: Green Moloney Jurrah Lawrence (rookie so doesnt count) Trade bait (with all due respect): Morton (has another year but its as clear as daylight) Martin (GC for Caddy?) Petterd (I loved this bloke, dont want him to go but I have a feeling) Rivers (keep hearing rumours) Dunn (fattening up the calf perhaps?) Watts (unlikely but stranger things have happened) Strauss (there are rumours) Gysberts (there are rumours) Bail (a QLD boy for Josh Caddy/Toy)? Potential to be delisted or traded if possible: Bate Bennell Cook (could be too soon, but it doesnt look good) Retirement? Aaron Davey (I worry about his injuries and his limp) I doubt all of these will come out but there is potential for a few more than 12!!

I dont think that Brent's leaving is necessarily a sign that he wasnt working hard enough. From what has been said it might just be that Brent and Neeld have very different views about how to play footy and its a mutual disagreement. Neeld could well be wrong on all of this, but we have no choice but to allow him to make hard decisions to revive the club which is still languishing in the hangover of the 186 defeat. We just need to be careful that all these 'walk outs' dont make other players who might potentially come to the club less likely to come here.

You are all quite conservative. Im going with 12 but Im thinking as much as 15!

We are on teh bottom of the ladder. We lost a game by 186 points. Anything less than a clean out would be a huge surprise. We hae no choice but to return to the first year of another rebuild.

I think perhaps neeld has challenged a few and they havent responded. I imagine Brad Scott would be pretty harsh in that situation as well. We've been hearing constantly in the press and in the releases on the MFC website that the list will be culled. A few are just getting out before they are culled I think. All the mail is saying one thing - Expect a total cull

I guess we have to be harsh and review our team based on this year and who stood up when push came to shove. Nathan Jones did for one.

I think its pretty clear that he wasnt in a Neeld future. I cant imagine Neeld is the kind of guy who would want players around a club that ask not to play And i say that without any malice or criticism of Liam - I acknowledge he had a LOT on his plate.

I get worried when a team like ours with a basically non functioning midfield gets rid of an ok midfielder in his day I guess. But hopefully we will find better players to replace? Sylvia has looked good in the midfield in the last few games so he must be keen for a new contract. Some touch decisions need to be made no doubt, so thanks for the years Brent. BTW - there was a post on facebook from someone who claimed to know Brent saying that 'if we were treated by our employer the way Brent has been, then we'd leave too.'

Judas 31!

Wait and see.

Not anymore it seems

Yeah it never looks good.

No doubt - Id expect 11-15 players.

Strange comment given that Brent prettymuch ran our midfield in 2010, 2011. The fact that he was dropped for the last three rounds indicates that Neeld wants him gone. Lets thank Brent for all that he has done for the club - which is more than some give him credit for. its obvious that our future requires some big changes.

I hope this isnt a mistake. Brent has done a lot for this club with his passion, etc and he often showed that he had a lot of potential. I will miss the pictures of him on the herald sun painted in red and blue two days before we get smashed LOL. But on a serious note I think he has been pushed out rather than anything else. Neeld and Moloney obviously arent on the same page.

No I dont condone those comments or that abuse at all. But I do understand the general feeling of frustration with the decision, even if I dont personally care because I think he has done us a favour in some ways. And yes I keep getting drawn back in dont i...

Sure we are a rabble. And it really helps when media men that are supposed to support our club get some dirt from an explayer, ignore the obvious irony in his statement of why he moved to Carlton and make the whole tanking debate about one club rather than at least 7. The media has had no role in disabilising the club with Scully, Davey/Misfid racism claim, etc.