Jaded No More

Please explain what does a 34 year old mediocre one dimensional ruckman bring to a team who already has Campbell and that other old guy who plays ruck and is kinda good at it. Won like 8 AA jackets and stuff. You might know him. And for the love of god don’t tell me we can make him a key position forward. The man had a total of 3 goals and 4 marks inside 50 this year. And just to prove I’m not a total hater, he took a whopping 14 marks inside 50 last year for a grand total of 6 goals. I would rather burn my eyes with acid than watch Cox in a Melbourne jumper.

And West Coast doesn’t? Come on now, West Coast has objectively the worst list in the AFL, and no chance in hell of getting any quality senior players to come to them. They would absolutely love someone like McVee, and McQualter was a big fan when he was at the Dees. Freo undoubtedly wants him. They love our sloppy seconds.

Not bending over backwards for a poor return in a poor draft, not giving Freo yet another quality player for under market value, and showing our players that we won’t let them run the show whenever they please. If pick 11 (which will be like pick 18) is on offer then fine take it and say bye amicably. If Freo try to lowball us I’m playing hard ball and telling them we are fine to send Judd to the PSD to fight it out. Generally I’m a big advocate for playing nice with these trade scenarios, as you gain more by being easy to deal with than being a nightmare like Essendon. However there comes a point where you need to draw a line in the sand. Freo have continually come for our players and tried lowballing us in trades. They can frankly eat dirt at this point.

Will WCE take a proven kid for free in a PSD that is sure to be totally weak given the National Draft is meant to be shallow and compromised, given their lack of talent and McQualter’s intimate knowledge of Judd? Yeah I reckon that’s a safe bet 😂

I know McQualter is a fan so undoubtedly the Eagles would be keen on him. Even pick 11 in this compromised draft is not a trade I’m salivating over. So if Freo offer a second rounder I’m playing hard ball and telling Judd we will walk him to the draft. I would however trade everything we get for Trac plus McVee plus future picks to get Jackson back. A girl can dream! 😂

The whole thing stinks Even if it’s true that he and Lily separated, it doesn’t explain waiting for 12 odd months to sign a contract you were given and had amended multiple times. Lots of excuses re: role, waiting for a new coach, but IMO Freo and his WA manager were in his ear all year and finally got what they wanted. And if anyone says “home sick” I’ll remind you Judd is not from Perth, and WA has two teams. Funny how he isn’t requesting a trade to the wooden spooners isn’t it?

At his request is what I believe

He’d want to be sure a deal can be done. Wouldn’t want to walk back thru the door two years in a row, would he now? It’s gonna be interesting to see the reactions on here if he formally requests a trade @Demonland you’re gonna need a bigger server 🫠

I’ve been here long enough to know which posters have serious problems and tend to pick on female posters. It’s very obvious. You don’t think the post referring to it being a “gal thing” to feel betrayed by a player is misogynistic? It’s fine not to agree, but the absolute garbage that Ghosty cops compared to others who post information and rumours, is very very obvious. I love everyone who comes here with info. Hell I’m here for the riddler at trade time. But if one poster gets so much vitriol thrown at them, and the only difference between said poster and others is her gender, then I think it’s fair to say that there is a level of misogyny going on. Especially when said poster contributes so positively not only to Demonland but the club itself! As one of the first and few female posters on here, it’s very disheartening to see some of the rubbish written towards her.

If only you weren’t a female poster hey 🙄

Tell Freo it’s pick 11 for Judd or he’s off to the draft God I hate Freo!

Don’t care that he lied to a fan. It’s poor but it happens. Care that he lied to the club for months and that his manager wasted our time and got the club to redraw contracts several times as his demands changed. And then lied about waiting for a new coach.

Langdon Essendon fans were very upset about losing Hibbo as well

Supporters of those clubs do if those players are any good

But I bet you love coming here and reading the info. If you don’t, block the posters or go away. Having a go at supporters who pass along info they get in good faith is what’s pathetic. The posters who suggested Judd will stay all have very solid track record with info and have put their necks out several times against the tide. Famously on Kosi staying put! It’s part of what makes Demonland so good, even if the info occasionally doesn’t stack up. If journalists can flat out lie to us, you have a problem with a few posters occasionally getting some solid info wrong? Edit: not surprised one bit by the poster who liked your post. The worst of the lot when it comes to contributing nothing but their deluded ego to this site, and who continuously shows his misogynistic ways with the posters he looks down on and dismisses.

Maybe King doesn’t think Judd is good enough to play an attacking half back role? Maybe he thinks Judd is better as a deep defender. Who knows really. Maybe he just said I will take your wishes on board, but bottom line we play a team sport and you need to play whatever role we need you to play each week. At the end of the day a player so clearly embedded in your best 22, leaving on grounds of wanting to play a slightly different role, is a total load of BS and an excuse. I’m not buying it.

Not sure he wants to be a midfielder. He wants to play an attacking role. Doesn’t want to defend hard. Doesn’t want to play last line of defense. It actually annoys me how hard Howes had to work to get senior games down back this year, while McVee had such a poor year and was never once dropped.

I think he stitched the club too. I reckon he and his WA based manager told a lot of lies during the year. Tried extracting more money, got more years, then asked to reduce the contract length back to two years, then asked to wait for a new coach… they absolutely played us.

That’s very unfair. Actually a glowing endorsement if King is not letting a mediocre player with potential dictate to him where he wants to play. King is the coach. You don’t like what role he wants you to play, see ya later! This is exactly why we replaced Goody, because standards and selflessness have gone out the window, something Goody himself recently admitted was a struggle post flag. You don’t let players run the show. Especially not players of Judd’s caliber. Imagine McVee telling Chris Scott he doesn’t want to play a defensive role. He’d be laughed out of the senior side.

@Ghostwriter do not let anyone in here have a go at you. I know you were passing info in good faith and believed what you were told. Anyone who piles on doesn’t deserve to ever come here again looking for info. I’m sorry Judd lied to you. You deserve much better than that!

This. He wants to dictate where he plays? He can do that at West Coast and enjoy a lovely collection of wooden spoons and Hungry Jacks meals.

I know we won’t do that, as it screws us, but my god I’d be tempted to let him walk to the draft and end up at West Coast and rot at the bottom of the ladder for the best years of his career. Filthy at this. Absolutely filthy. Exactly the sort of selfish attitude and me first mentality that we need to rid the club of. You’d think he was languishing at Casey all year, instead of being rushed back from a hammy and played thru truly mediocre form all year!

Seems Judd and his manager took our club for a ride. You may not believe what some posters are suggesting on here, but plenty of posters with good connections and sources all heard the same re: Judd wanting to stay. So screw that ungrateful cry baby who we plucked from obscurity during Covid and made a great player, who isn’t happy to play the role he’s being asked to play What a pathetic way to pay the club back.

So I was watching the game with friends yesterday including my very good friend who is an Essendon supporter. We were discussing how they’re chasing Zac Bailey (who is a gun!), and he said Bailey would love to come play for a big club like Essendon now he’s won 2 flags. I didn’t know if should laugh at him or cry at his delusion, so I just said the only way Bailey ends up at Essendon is if you throw every single bit of cap you have at him.

Andrews was fantastic but against not much opposition, especially once Cameron broke his arm. Lions won that game thru midfield dominance and brutality led by Ashcroft. Ashcroft also played well for the entire game, he dominated in every quarter. 32 touches, 10 clearances, 8 tackles, 9 inside 50s, 10 score involvements, 3 goal assists and a goal himself is elite stuff. He had a complete game.