Jaded No More

Firstly you have no idea who they consulted, including senior players. You're naïve if you think all the senior players were 100% behind Goody. Some were likely wanting change, especially those whose time is running out. And even those who didn't want change, may have still had issues with the coach. It's not that shocking. Secondly this is nothing like the Schwab and Bailey situation, because Schwab was CEO, and he was universally hated by every player for his involvement in the FD. We already got rid of our CEO last year for a similar issue.

Whoever it is, I for one can't wait for the usual Demonland sad sacks to start to question him immediately, and blame him if we don't go on to win a flag in 2026.

The real question is, how is Demonland’s server holding up?

If Richo stays it’s simply about the soft cap pressures. Simple as that.

A sure fire way to kill off the last remaining few of us die hard supporters of the club.

Bailey Laurie was last seen bringing Troy a basket of homemade muffins

He signed because the entire club has been great to him, he’s playing great footy here, his family is happy in Melbourne and Matty Whelan is doing amazing things at the club. And oh because he’s getting paid a LOT of money He did not sign because someone promised him Goody will be his coach for the rest of his career. He’s also not a moron. You think he looked at the on field results and didn’t think Goody’s job wasn’t entirely safe? Give him some credit ffs! Players who choose to leave because the coach has left, were never really invested in the club anyway. Coaches come and go. Ask Tmac how many he’s played under. Now of course if a new coach comes in and Kosi and him don’t get on, then he might want to leave. The coach that is, not Kosi 😂

Here is my concern with Horse. He had the world on a platter at Sydney. Inherited a winning culture, COLA and academy at his disposal. A club well supported by the AFL and a good home ground advantage (although a disadvantage to playing on the G). With all that he won one flag, which granted are very hard to win, but he also coached a team that was mentally fragile on the biggest stage of all. Twice they got humiliating in a grand final. I think from setting standards perspective he will be excellent, and he takes no prisoners which I think we need, but likewise is he capable of coming up with a game plan that suits the large MCG? Does he have the fire in the belly? Can he coach without the luxury of top quality academy picks coming his way? Does he want to drive to Casey? If Longmire is the target then it makes sense that we pulled the trigger now, before Carlton blink on Voss. We definitely don’t want to compete with a big club if we are chasing an experienced guy with a plethora of options. My preference is still an untried high quality assistant from a winning club, and an experienced GM of footy. That’s the best balance of power IMO.

It’s hard. I still remember how sad I was when Daniher was sacked. I was even gutted for Dean Bailey who I knew was being scapegoated for far larger issues. It’s always unpleasant to lose a coach (unless that coach is Neeld 😬), and it’s even harder to lose a coach that was so successful and brought us the joy of a flag. Something I personally thought I would die without seeing. But two things can be true at once. You can be sad about a relationship ending, and also acknowledge that it’s best to part ways. Not every breakup has to be bad. I wish Goody all the absolute best and have no doubt he has a long footy career still ahead. I will always respect him for what he gave us and what he achieved, and the grace with which he carried himself to the very end.

If all else fails I’m probably available for the right price. I can’t coach but I promise I’ll do a better job managing our comms.

Do you know what he’s been through in his personal life? He lost his wife and mother of his two older boys tragically and suddenly not that long ago. What a totally unnecessary comment.

Oh no, here come the meltdowns....

At least nobody can complain about SOCCER TRAINING again

I heard his presentation will include great ideas such as telling Gawn to leave to another club.

What a solid idea, sack a premiership winning coach, and replace him with a coach that has failed time and time and time again to win one with some pretty good teams. Hinkley is not welcomed unless he brings Butters with him.

I agree that the way it was handled from a comms point of view was terrible, but what else is new there. I don't know how it was handled with Goody so I can't comment, but for this story to leak, be broken by [censored] Tom Morris and then we hear nothing from the club for hours and hours was absolutely hot garbage. I would suggest a sackable offense, but hard to sack people when those in charge are not really in charge, they're just warming seats.

How is that at all related to what I said? He has a great personal relationship with our senior players and their families, and he is a key reason Kosi didn't walk out the door 3 years into his career. You can be unhappy with on field performances and still give credit where it is due. I swear this place is a nightmare.

More interesting to see who doesn't post / say anything. Edit: I imagine Melksham is taking it the hardest. He's been coached by Goody since he was 17! Wow

A very good point that shouldn't be lost in all this. Good governance and stability is SO important to success. Just look at Geelong and Brisbane. Stable from the top down, excellent leadership and consistent governance. Now look at Essendon who 20 years on have still not recovered from the debacle of the supplement saga. Since the end of 2021 we have been dealing with some form of off field drama or another. The endless lawsuit, the leaking, the board room battles, hiring Pert despite PJ's opposition, caretaker president, no CEO, it's just been one thing after another. It's taken a toll on the coaches and the players, it made us an unfavourable option for assistant coaches and players alike. Goody has had to deal with more than most senior coaches, and he has always done so with dignity and respect for the players and the club. Let us hope that in 2026 we can finally get some permanent, strong leadership from the board all the way down to the footy department, because without it we will never succeed.

I think the 'net trend' is not enough. We will be lucky to get 8 wins this year, after an 11 win season last year. It's just not a good enough result, because rightly or wrongly, the club believes our list should be competing in finals. Sacking a coach is never not reactionary. Sacking Dean Bailey was reactionary, we were 9th at the time we lost to Geelong and very much trending upwards with a bog ordinary list. Goodwin has not just had 2 very poor seasons, especially this year off the back of minimal injuries, but he was at the helm of some pretty poor off field issues with our list since 2023. Now of course it's never just the coach who is at fault, but sadly senior coaches always take the fall. To be fair we sacked our CEO first, which was the right decision. I am sad to see Goody go, and I have no idea if the decision is right. I don't think anyone really does. Only time will tell us. Mark Neeld is the only coach I think everyone universally rejoiced to see go. I still remember how conflicted I was about Daniher leaving.

If you are choosing to believe that, that's on you. We have very clearly started the process of at least sounding out our options. As for why now? I believe we wanted to be the first, and not fall behind Carlton. Voss is unlikely to continue at Carlton, and who knows what will happen with North.

3 weeks could be crucial in securing interviews with candidates, especially if Voss is sacked before the season is up. We would want someone to start ideally as soon as possible, but certainly before the trade and draft period. You want your new coach involved in list management. Sacking a coach is always terrible, the timing doesn't make it less so. I think we are all quite blind sighted but waiting another 3 games wouldn't have made it any easier on Goody, he might have been even more annoyed to find he was coaching for no reason. Had we sacked him post the St Kilda loss or mid season, would that have made the decision wiser or better or more reactionary?

Clubs can't stop assistants from interviewing for senior roles, but certainly I would expect no assistant would start a new job until after their current club's season was finished, be it week 1 of finals or post grand final. You think Richmond didn't speak to Yze during the finals in 2023?

It sounds like they gave him the option to, and he decided not to. I understand the point of view around timing, but the decision was made following a scheduled board meeting, and it would be crazy to decide to sack the coach and not tell him straight away. If it got out it would be that much worse. And I strongly believe we wanted to pull the trigger before another club sacked their coach cough Voss cough

We would definitely hope to have someone in place before the trade/draft period. You need a senior coach to be involved in list management.