nutbean

I am a devotee of the caravan music club in Oakleigh and they get some great live music down there. About twice a year Harry Angus ( from the Cat Empire) and Darcy McNulty and two others from Clairey Browne and the Banging raquettes play the club in a band called "Jazz Party" They played in November and got nice and toasted and had to be thrown out at 1am - just wouldn't stop playing - it was a great night. They get together infrequently due to their other commitments but if you see them advertised definitely go and see them.

Unfortunately its a fly in and fly out thing - arriving at noon and out on Saturday morning first thing. I am trying to sneak out and back before my girlfriend even realises I am gone !

Hardtack - coming up your way tomorrow for the triple J 40th anniversary concert. Great line up - should be a ripper.

I remember reading an article in Ram or Juke or one of those papers when Blondie first came to Australia, When asked what her favorite things about Australia was she replied " you guys have really good smack here"

Has anyone here discovered the Caravan Music Club in Oakleigh. What a gem that place is ! I spend half my life there. Went and saw a Jazz night there last Wednesday - Harry Angus ( Cat Empire ) and Darcy McNulty (Clairy Browne and the Bangin Racquettes) plus Loretta Miller on vocals - a great night - they seriously didn't want to stop playing... And now a rant. I quite like Sia - a great voice and a great talent. I respect that she doesn't want to be recognisably famous - she doesn't tour which is ok but then she goes on the Graham Norton Show and sings with her back to the audience. If you don't want to be seen then fine but don't go on a show and disrespect the audience you [censored] jockey.

You summed what I like in movies - very British. British film makers do quirky, left of centre so well.

I don't have an S key on my keyboard ( doh!)

I watched "in bruges" on the weekend.. anyone seen it ? well worth the watch

I am sure the club tried but that is why I was so keen to give up pick 2 or 3 for an established midfielder. There is nothing like exposed form to lessen the risk when bringing new players into the club. Even though Tyson has few games under his belt, he showed enough to suggest that he could make it in the big league. There should be few surprises with Lumumba and Gartlett - we know what we are getting. I recall we all got excited when we got a father/son selection of another dashing wingman turned back pocket in Chris Johnson. Lets hope the young Stretch has more of his father in him than Chris Johnson did.

Not all but your pretty well on the money with this statement !

This is one the definitions on groupthink.... Rather than critically evaluating information, the group members begin to form quick opinions that match the group consensus. Groupthink seems to occur most often when a respected or persuasive leader is present, inspiring members to agree with his or her opinion. It may be a stretch ( no pun intended) but the group members are posters on here and the "respected or persuasive leader" and "group concensus" in my opinion is the media ( the likes of Cardona and Paige and other journo's ) who quite accurately predict the top 10 of each draft each season and tell us how wonderful they are all, only to be proven incorrect in actuality . Going back to the Judd/Hodge/Ball draft there has not been a draft since where there hasn't been a bust in the top 3 draft picks. So here is the critical information that has not been evaluated. Given the data from all those drafts - there is at least a 33% chance that one of McCartin, Petracca or Brayshaw will be a bust. The amount of people lauding our wonderful performance in the draft and how we got it right based on write ups in the papers fail to factor in the one in three chance that one of our top two picks has a fair chance of being decidedly average. Absolutely we should be excited but to use expressions like "we nailed it" when the boys drafted have an AFL resume of zero astounds me. If you dont think it matches the description of groupthink then fine but I will then go with "those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it". If history does repeat itself and we are the recipients stay tuned for posters in about 2 years flaying Taylor and Viney for passing up on Lever or Laverde or some other champion that got through to pick 44 when one of Petracca and Brayshaw turn out to be meh. Edit - See post 772 - Frawley is a solid and reliable defender. Swapping Frawley for Brayshaw is a magnificent result. Is it really ? He hasn't played one game yet and could turn out to be Xavier Ellis taken at 3..... Then how magnificent is it ?

actually according to the thread.....

I would caution anyone to suggest that any draft pick is a win until there some runs on the board. I am cautiously optimistic with the current draft picks with caution being the operative word. Many first round draft picks notoriously do not live up to their footage. This is not just a syndrome that has befallen our club but all clubs - unfortunately our club has had failed draft picks more than most. Sorry Angus, but pick 3 has been particularly bad with the only true star being Judd. Dusty is very good - Griffin - great and poor.Here is my optimism - we may have the best no 3 at our club since Judd - and that is Tyson.

Spot on . Thread successfully hijacked so I will leave it at that. My one zillion posts in the aforementioned thread makes my position clear.

RE-read the Frawley thread again and tell me if you would still like to maintain this position. edit - interesting thread - read the first five pages...then go to the middle of the thread...then go to the end of the thread. He apparently was much required at the beginning of the thread - by the middle when he still hadn't signed there was great shift and many suggested that we would be better off without him and by the end he was no loss at all. There was some support that pick 3 made him going worthwhile but I beleive that many of the negative views of him were coloured because he refused to re-sign and the expectation was that he was going.

I will suggest that Frawley ( who had some good games dotted with some games where he didn't go nearly hard enough) was absolutely maligned by supporters on this site based on his protracted contractual situation. Not to hard to replace and won't be missed. I expect to be shouted down by the "Frawley was a cancer on the club" brigade.

petracka-attark ?

I'm in the "wait and see" camp on this - but the points you make are pivotal. Get them right and we will have very good footballers on our hands. I am excited because it appears to me we have the structures in place to make this happen.

What has me excited is not only the quality coming in but Roos constant theme that "these kids should not be the saviors of the club and we must develop them". The club has backed Roos and put money into the development side. When you learn to develop kids properly and not pressure them too early that is exactly what might happen - they well may indeed become the saviors of the club.

Really ? the last time was Lucas Cook at pick 12..... eww

It will be interesting as nearly all commentators have McCartin going number one and I cannot remember the commentators ever getting the number one pick wrong.

I get that. - we also get so excited about these boys when we see the packages. The packages should excite us - These are "best of" packages - they have two years of footage to draw from. They are not going to drop footage in their of dropped marks, missed tackles and out on the full kicks. I could make a "best of" Cale Morton highlight package from his time with us that make us all lick of lips with anticipation ( well.. maybe I couldn't)

As long as it isn't one of your cars parked in Rosebay

Most of us can only go on what we see in these video packages but the difference in disposal between the two packages is really stark.

I have aim of next year my club going on a roll and winning every game of the season except for the last game ( the wake up call we need to have) and then going through in straight sets to win the grand final. ... Sometimes the best of aims don't eventuate.