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On 21/11/2025 at 14:13, Little Goffy said: Gold Coast are going to get very nervous anytime he says he's going to head home and go fishing in a tinny loaded with
His best mate
His junior coach
A million dollars
I'd pay the club a bonus if they set up that photo.
Perhaps a dees jumper with his name on the back draped over the players race at the G all season?
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24 minutes ago, Tolstoys Nudge said: Looks super fit & a bit more dialled-in from what Iโve seen so far!
He's got the talent, and when on has an x factor.
But he hasn't shown nearly enough x factor, or impacted enough games. And he needed to because he got bugger all of the footy.
And it's not as if Goody didn't give him plenty of games, many of which he was lucky to get given his numbers
i reckon a key factor for Kolt to play best 22 footy is getting the psychological stuff right.
Stop the faux tough guy stuff, get super fit and focus on winning more of the footy.
The positive is he's young and if he can get focused and di the work he's got huge upside.
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1 hour ago, Lil_red_fire_engine said: I am quietly confident we will finish higher than 2025. I donโt think we will surge into top 4 but with a good run with injuries and a strong preseason we will improve particularly second half of season as the best 23 settles and game style starts to gel. Yes we have lost McVee and Oliver but neither of them were the best versions of themselves in 2025. The loss of Trac and how big an impact this is on field is the unknown. The recruitment of Steele and CJ will balance out the form loss of Oliver and McVee. Whilst not a like for like Mihocek will be a major boost to our tall forward game and should have strong flow on to the development of JVR, Kentfield, Jefferson. Again injuries aside whilst we moved on some other mature age back ups and profile younger, the depth of AFL potential quality on our list is better in my view and should mean pressure for spots across all roles which is always a good thing.
Pretty much reflects my thoughts
I'd add that there's just too many unknowns and variables to make an informed opinion on our ladder position next year.
One such unknown is the impact of tracc and Oliver leaving on team culture.
Schwartz is right that irs impossible to replace those two players, though I'd note both, were a fair way off their best footy, particularly claz.
But its possible the team as a whole will be be more cohesive and connected as there seems little doubt there were schisms opening between younger and older players.
Connected, cohesive teams perform better than teams with rifts, particularly in modern footy given the importance of adhering to roles, structures and systems.
And leaving the culture aspect aside, as Goody could attest every time claz and trac just banged on the boot to get territory, or missed a simple lead up inside 50 kick, a barrier to implementing a new game plan and methods is senior players reverting ti old methods under pressure.
So, it may well prove to be a net benefit losing tracc and claz.
I will be very surprised if we fall below 14th.
I won't be surprised if we make finals, in large part because I honestly believe the lions (and possibly the crows, their dismal 2026 finals series notwithstanding) are the only standout team.
You can throw a blanket over the rest down to the the obvious bottom four team - the Bombers, Tigers, Roos and Eagles.
And a big reason why is that block of 10-12 clubs all have have average lists outside the best 20-25 players. Depth is a myth.
And so luck with injury is the biggest determinant of likely finishing position, followed by fitness.
I just checked Sportsbet's odds to make finals next year. Interestingly they don't have such a market, but rather a market t8 make top 10 (because of the wild card palaver).
That market would have no money in the pool, so the odds atm reflect the assesment of their analysts (analysts set all markets then from that point punters shape the odds based on their investments)
The price for making top 10 next season is currently $3.50. Seems abour right.
By way of contrast the bombers are $7
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13 minutes ago, rjay said: Actually, I'm more annoyed with his lack of good grace now.
Yep.
Bottom line he may not have got his shot at AFL footy if we didn't rookie him.
Something along the lines of 'I'll forever be grateful to the dees for giving me a chance to live out my dream' wouldn't have gone astray.
Could care les about him now that he's not a dee.
But I'll be honest, the combination of making a point of saying i was out the door half way thru the season (which i dont mind, but no need to broadcast it because it its retrospectively an insult to dees fans) and his lack.of thanks to the MFC, he's gone down in my estimation.
I won't boo him, not my go.
BUT I might sledge him when it becomes clear Frederick is playing the role he seems to think he has a right to play, and instead he is a lock down medium defender who has to try and shut down Latrelle and Koz.
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7 hours ago, jnrmac said: Sometimes guys coming in here and there are a fresh voice and their words have more impact - particularly if they are greats of the game like Scarlett, Hawkins etc.
Listening to the same coach week in week out can be a little monotonous depending on their message delivery.
Agree.
And another positive factor is given their areas of expertise, and the fact that are only part time, Scarlett and Hawkins will likely have a pretty narrow brief - that's to say they will focus on specific elements of defensive craft and forward craft respectively.
How good would it be for a young defender like Xavier Taylor to have a defender of Scarlett's skill and knowledge help develop intercept skills, or Disco his one-on-one positioning.
And players like JVR and Luker will love being able to discuss specific forward skills (eg timing leads, use of the body etc) with Hawkins, one of the best key forwards of the last 20 years.
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14 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said: So yeah, seems weโre giving out these one day a week gigs left, right and centre. ๐
I like it.
If Buckley was coach he would have had much more power to demand his own people than King.
And King doesn't have the same resources at his disposal as Buckley would have.
So instead he is his building a champagne team on a beer budget.
Keeping a core of existing staff that have a positive connection with players, and presumably people he gets along with amd rates. Chaplin is the key such assistant.
And adding some quality part timers he trusts and has history with.
Quality over quantity.
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59 minutes ago, Oxdee said: Which forwards does hawthorn have?
Unintentionally ironic thread title.
The pendulum will perhaps swing back, but as it stands key forwards have never been less a factor.
Look at the contenders last year - only the crows fielded more than one genuine gun key forward (Thilthorpe, Fogarty and at a stretch Walker).
And the crows, despite finishing top of the ladder - checks notes - got knocked out of the finals in straight sets.
The premiers had two key forwards, but Hipwood had little impact all year and Morris, whilst he had a great season and could become an A grader, he's not there yet.
The cats had Neale, who is certainly no gun, and Cameron, who in any case plays a hybrid role.
The pies had McStay and Miochek as key forwards - solid players both but no superstars.
Just look at this year's draft for evidence of the waning importance of key forwards.
Of the 25 first round picks there was just one genuine key forward selected - Aidan Schubert who the Hawks selected at 23.
With Miochek and JVR we're fine for key forwards.
And we have Luker lurking in the wings and heath who at some stage might play the Jackson forward second ruck role, as could AJ if he can elevate his game (big if I have to say).
The irony in the title is that the issue hasn't been key forwards it's been how we have delivered the ball to those forwards - we've often had no way forward.
King has traded out two players who can't hit targets inside 50 and our first two picks were a fella who can change angles and hit targets from defence and a small/medium forward with good foot skillls who can play close to goal or at half forward where he can deliver it inside 50 (and also free up koz, one of our best field kicks when he's not trying to be too cute, to play more mid time and therefore have more opportunities to be kicking inside 50).
Instructive that with our third pick we went with another small forward.
To me that also points to the waning influence of key forwards in footy atm (and gives us a clue on the method King wants us to implement - move it fast, get it inside 50 quickly, ideally hit up a leading target, but if not get it to ground at let the medium and smalls go to work).
Contested marks inside 50 are a complete bonus now, as to a lesser extent are goals - the number one KPI for key forwards ATM is ensuring the oppo defenders, in particular their intercept markers, don't mark the footy and the ball is brought to ground.
That doesn't take quite the same skillset as in the heyday of 100 goals a year key forwards.
What's needed is small and medium forwards and mids who can push forward to take marks inside 50 in space and/or kick goals.
Brisbane is the exemplar of that shift with their huge raft of such players.
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4 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said: No just the highlights, with regard to the draft age personally would like to see it raised to 20 TBH. I see a lot of boys struggle in their draft year with school and expectation. Don't get me started on managers/agents either filling their heads with nonsense and bad advice. For boys who are born in the second half of the year the can be lucky to play half a dozen games of colts footy in their draft year if they are tied to a PSA school.
I'd like to see players drafted at an age where their bodies are almost fully developed and they have been exposed over a period of time playing against bigger bodies. Off field I believe they would also have an apprenticeship of degree/diploma behind them and some security should the AFL dream not work out.
But that's just my personal opinion
Totes agree - for all the reasons you note. I said 19 because of that gap issue but I'd be happy with 20.
The other things i's add is the current system is too weighted to players coming up thru the elite junior systems, a problem that has bedeviled soccer in Australia (ie players not on that pathway don't make it and gifted players are lost to the elite senior level)
I actually think the gap year(s) issue could actually be made into a positive by the AFL pouring some resources into the SANFL, WAFL and VFL to ensure their fitness and other programs are closer to the AFLs in standard.
That combined with an expanded 'train with' model (ie prospective players sometimes train with an AFL club) would improve the standard of the leagues on the rung below the AFL. And allow young men to settle post VCE and focus on their development.
The thing is its not the Rowels, Langfords and Andersons that we need to worry about - the top 5 draft footy robots will almost always make the next step ok. It's the players like Latrelle Sumner-Pickett that we risk losing to the AFL level ie players who have followed a different path, for example have not gone to a private school and/or played in the Coates league etc.
And on that point, i'd argue the current model disadvantages Indigenous players, as evidenced by the shocking drop in the number of Indigenous players being drafted.
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17 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said: I still recall Ashโs Demons being unhappy when we selected Salem over Nathan Freeman, draft can be very unforgiving at times.
Iโm sceptical on the pick given the other players available however will back JT to have got it right
Have you seen him play live PSD? If yes, would be interested in your impressions.
By the by, another semi related query - what's your opinion on the draft age?
(for transparency, whilst get raising it runs the risk of creating a post junior footy and VCE gap year with players not having an elite system to roll straight into, particularly outside of Vic given the SANFL and WAFL and NFL are not as strong as the VFL, i'm of the view that, with some caveats, that it should be raised to 19)
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2 hours ago, joeboy said: Just as a matter of interest for the doubters, Cal Twomey had Kossie as a speculative Phantom Draft pick 30 prior to us making one of the most important club decisions EVER in selecting him
Memory is a funny thing.
If asked before last night when Koz was taken in his draft, I suspect many dees fans might have guessed top 10 such has been the level he has played at since being drafted
And many might also have forgotten that he was not projected by most draft watchers to go as high as 12. If IIRC many pundits had us linked to Cody Weightman, who ended up going to the dogs at pick 15. Weightman is an excellent player but i very much doubt there's many dees fans who regret the fact we took Koz.
Side note:
It would be a fascinating hypothetical exercise to redo the 2019 draft order - Rowell and Anderson were the deserved top 2, but geez in hindsight i'd be taking Koz over Jackson at pick 3, or for that matter any other player who went top 10, with the possible exception of Caleb Serong.
Speaking of Jackson an interesting factoid is only three first rounders have played in a winning flag from the 2019 draft - Jackson, Koz and Sam De Koning. And i think I'm right in saying of the 2019 first round draft picks only Koz, Anderson Rowell and Serong have been All Australian.
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7 minutes ago, Salems Lot said: Agreed however there has been talk of home sickness over the years and having a familiar face around the place can'tgo astray.
Sure, but he's only just signed a long term deal to stay at the club. Pretty definitive evidence he's not planning on going anywhere anytime soon.
I just think the idea that LP will reduce the likelihood koz will leave implies it was a signficant factor in the decision to draft LP.
Perhaps if koz hadn't just signed a long term deal and LP was a lage last round or rookie pick perhaps it might be a factor. But not a high first round draft pick in an elite bliion dollar competition.
All that said, I 100% agree that playing with family can only be a positive in terms of creating an environment koz loves being in. And that can only be a good thing - for koz, LP, the other indigenous players - in fact is argue the whole club.
A related factor I reckon is LP is 20, which I love. Even though understandably nervous, you could see the difference between LP and some of the 18 year olds.
He has a more life experience than most high end draft picks and I supect won't need the same level of support as say koz did in his first year. Seems like a self contained focused young fella.
Hopefully he thrives in an elite training environment. And if he does, hiven he has not had the benefit of elite junior footy development, he's got much more scope to go up levels than any other first round draft pick.
The parallels to koz, who was also taken at 12 and was also somewhat of a bolter (though perhaps not t9 the same extent) are fascinating.
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7 hours ago, Turner said: since when was a small forward graded on their number of disposals, he needs to be invovled in scoring chains, goals, defensive intent. you can make some argument about spargo here, but he didnt do the goals/pressure part either. picketts do, its in their blood.
Don't worry about his reserves form, how about his seniors form in the SANFL
He's going at 16 disposals, 3 marks, 1 tackle, 2 clearances, 2 inside 50s, and 4 goals a game*
*PSA - redblue whatevs, take a beat if you were about to furiously rebutt the above point. It was a gag - I know he's only played one senior game.
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1 minute ago, Salems Lot said: I would call it 360 degree thinking. He can play, he can kick goals (a clear need) he provides an extra level of support to our marquee player.
Yes, though I'd say koz provides an extra level of support for LP not the other way 'round.
Whilst of course it will be great for koz to have the opportunity to play with his cousin, the inference koz needs extra support of some sort (with the obvious implication being otherwise he will not play his best footy and/or might leave for another club) isn't fair to koz.
Koz is 24, 25 next year, played 120 odd games of AFL footy, is a premiership player, All Australian and just signed a lucrative long term deal.
He doesn't need any extra support.
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On 12/11/2025 at 15:09, old55 said: Vlaustuin?
Good call @old55.
Asked who he models his game on after he was picked Taylor's answer was Vlauustin.
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9 minutes ago, manny100 said: May well play early in the season. Has good endurance and did a good 2km.
Promising rookie me profile. Will allow Kosi to play more mid and be extra dangerous when he (Kosi) drifts forward. Speed and X Factor - i like it.
Latrelle Pickett Draft Profile - Aussie Rules Rookie Me Central (formerly AFL Draft Central)
STRENGTHS:
+ Scoreboard impact
+ Speed
+ Vertical leap
+ X-factorIMPROVEMENTS:
- Defensive work rate
- ExposureThe idea that we would use a pick 12 to keep koz is a nonsense.
The key factor I reckon is, as you suggest, it means koz can play as a permanent mid who goes forward occasionally.
We need koz in the middle as otherwise we have no leg speed in there - well, that and the fact you want koz around the ball as much as possible given his damage factor.
And it goes without saying Taylor thinks he has the talent and potential to justify the decision.
BUT the Koz connection is a big, big bonus and almost certainly a factor in the call, for example instead of taking Cairn or Doveston.
For one thing, what a great way playing with your cousin is to help create an environment LP can thrive and love being in.
Ditto for Koz.
And Wheels must love it as it just adds to a really strong core of young indigenous boys, for whom McAdams and Koz are leaders and great supports.
I'll be honest and say I've barely watched any vision of him (but I will now - ill watch every bit of vision I can find on YouTube).
But even so, I have to say I just love this call.
In Taylor I trust
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11 hours ago, Wrecker46 said: If BOM predicts sunshine I predict rain.
For the gamblers out there Melbourne are ridiculous odds at $9. I donโt think the agencies know how to set the odds properly on AFLW. North are great but you shouldnโt see odds like that in a prelim both sides deserve to be there
Um, I'm not so sure.
The roos' record is phenomenal, and they look a cut above all teams.
A small pool no doubt, so could possiblt drop to $8 or $7, but $9 is not miles off (i just checked - they are out to 9.50).
But it would make a win more epic.
I hope we double down, and lean into our chain up handball outside game.
As we saw against port and the hawks, whilst that method is def suspect against the sort of pressure the roos will bring, realistically it's too late in the day to change how we play.
And if we get into a physical battle and try to beat the roos at their own game they'll completely smash us.
Play with the freedom of being a massive underdog.
All out attack and hope we can put some scoreboard pressure on them.
The pressure is on them not us.
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41 minutes ago, adonski said: Cal's late mail still has us with Farrow and Nairn
LATE MAIL PHANTOM DRAFT
Pick 1 โ West Coast: Willem Duursma
Pick 2 โ Gold Coast: Zeke Uwland (matching West Coast's bid)
Pick 3 โ Carlton: Harry Dean (matching West Coast's bid)
Pick 4 โ West Coast: Cooper Duff Tytler
Pick 5 โ Gold Coast: Dylan Patterson (matching Richmond's bid)
Pick 6 โ Brisbane: Daniel Annable (matching Richmond's bid)
Pick 7 โ Richmond: Sam Cumming
Pick 8 โ Richmond: Sullivan Robey
Pick 9 โ Essendon: Xavier Taylor
Pick 10 โ Essendon: Dyson Sharpย
Pick 11 โ Melbourne: Jacob Farrow
Pick 12 โ Melbourne: Cam Nairn
Pick 13 โ Essendon: Lachy Dovaston
Pick 14 โ Hawthorn: Sam Grlj
Pick 15 โ North Melbourne: Latrelle Pickett
Pick 16 โ Sydney: Harry Kyle (matching GWS's bid)
Pick 17 โ Greater Western Sydney: Oskar Taylor
Pick 18 โ Gold Coast: Jai Murray (matching West Coast's bid)
Pick 19 โ West Coast: Beau Addinsall
Pick 20 โ Western Bulldogs: Josh Lindsay
Pick 21 โ Adelaide: Mitch Marsh
Pick 22 โ Carlton: Jack Ison (matching Geelong's bid)
Pick 23 โ Geelong: Blake Thredgold
Pick 24 โ West Coast: Tylah Williams (matching Fremantle's bid)
Pick 25 โ Essendon: Adam Sweid (matching Fremantle's bid)
Pick 26 โ Fremantle: Aidan Schubert
Pick 27 โ Hawthorn: Liam Hetherton
Pick 28 โ North Melbourne: Harley Barker
Pick 29 โ Sydney: Lachie Carmichael (matching Western Bulldogs' bid)
Pick 30 โ Western Bulldogs: Louis EmmettCan I propose that when Nairn scores a goal dees fans all start singing:
Nairn, Nairn, Nairn na na na Nairn, na na na Nairn, hey Cam
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7 hours ago, Ghostwriter said: For a long time sheโs been solid; reliable and consistent. But sheโs dropped off a bunch of late. She looks so much slower now. This hasnโt been a good season for her.
Agree. I'd add that she is basically playing as a kwy forward, but doesn't take enough marks. And doesn't look a natural key forward.
I'd love to see her get super fit and play as a tall winger.
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5 hours ago, BW511 said: Pretty significant upgrade on Spargo though - kicks multiple goals, gets a lot of the footy, has great running capacity and is 6โ2โ vs 5โ8โ making him an aerial threat too.
Chalk and cheese, one might say.
'Nairn was a key member of South Australiaโs undefeated national champs campaign โ and he produced one of the best individual performances of the carnival, booting 7.0 from 10 disposals and five marks against WA playing as a mid-sized forward.'
Seven straight!
Be still my beating heart.
PRESEASON TRAINING: Monday 8th December 2025
in Melbourne Demons
I may well be wrong Cranky, and apologies if I am, but I'm guessing you and your wife are not currently elite athletes plying your trade in a billion dollar competition.
And if that's the case your experience dealing with your lis franc injury, whilst certainly giving you real insight into what Bowser will go thru, is of limited value in terms of estimating the length of his recovery period.
That's to say a young elite athlete in prime condition with access to cutting edge, expensive medical treatmwnt support and a full time medical team guiding his rehabilitation is likely to recover more quickly than Jo and Joanne public who have had the same injury.