binman

2 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

love it, Travis Johnston and Aaron Davey would carve teams up with with the rest of the squad we have to put around them.

Good kicking never goes out of style.

On 12/11/2024 at 07:14, binman said:

I dont have any knowledge about the juniors, and not much to offer in terms of which players we should pick.

But in terms of needs I'd go:

Pick 5:

- Tallish hard at it mid with elite foot skills, great tank, reasonable leg speed, can get forward and kick goals (not necessarily a hybrid in the tracc mold, like say kolt) and is ready to play AFL footy in 2025

Comparison players: Zac Bailey, Bont, Jarrod Berry.

Pick 9:

- Outside mid, half back flanker, wing with proven super elite foot skills, speed and x factor. Left footer a bonus.

Comparison players: Warner, Nick Daicos, Judd McVee, Gulden, Kiddy Coleman.

IMHO, we don't need another tall forward - and i don't think we'll use 5 or 9 on one.

Elite ball users who can open up zones and not turn the pill over are the priority.

Langford and Lindsay both tick off the attributes I was hoping we'd target.

Fantastic result.

Langford looks big enough to play AFL footy next season.

And I just love we picked up two quality left footers. 

20 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Really interesting that both our draft picks so far are great kicks. With Windsor last year, it seems our "best available" philosophy comes with a qualification about good foot skills. 

Good.

13 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Obviously my tounge was planted in my cheek.

I'm just thinking back to our picks like Lucas cook, Morton & toumpas

If you really want to feel bad how about jarman sitting out the a dra so he didn't have to go to us and instead landed at Hawthorn the following year.

I've often thought we would have won the flag if jarman played with us in 1987. 

Still rankles.

Just now, dees189227 said:

Whose lives are we going to ruin tonight?

I just hope whoever we get, give us something 

You must be such fun at parties.

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Again, what content do you this is lacking in the club's social media channels, posters are pontificating without actually putting meat on the bones of what type of content should a footy club be producing?

Honestly saty, what is the point of answering this question - you will just shoot down any response. 

My response?

Member based organisations should produce content it's members want.

And that's easy to find out - ask us, and track the data.

And content that attract prospective members.

Content that adds to the value proposition of forking out big dollars for a membership.

And content that adds to the value proposition for current or prospective sponsors (who value 'reach" very highly)

We have been woeful in this space since Ben Gibson left. Woeful. 

You either don't get that, or as is more likely, you do get it and are being argumentative for argument's sake.

1 hour ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

 😁

All-time favourite songs:

Jeffo- Thunderstruck, AC/DC
Bill Laurie- Californication, RHCP
Roo- (needs more time to think but for now)  Black Betty
Pup Brown- any and everything Drake
Will V- Back In Black, AC/DC

Exhibit A why I don't like to meet my heroes.

2 hours ago, old55 said:

That's not correct. He only produces one actual phantom draft, with some late mail updates right before the draft.

He has been incredibly accurate over the years, if anyone knows what's going on it's him.

One phantom draft with two updates is three phantom drafts by my reckoning.

Tomato, Tomatoe.

And I didn't say twomey wasn't accurate - well at least in terms of the top 10.

But if he is correct the hundred other phantom drafts with different selections are, by definition, wrong.

9 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

The clubs know more than Cal. Cals phantom drafts he shares are just a less educated version of what clubs have told him. They have zero influence on the draft. Clubs have lists of 50 plus with tools to alter based on factors like position, specific attribute, location etc. What we read and hear about is a fraction of it all.

This.

The various phantom drafts seem to grow in perceived significance every season, particularly Twomey's.

As fun as they ate, they are just that - fun. Click bait.

Hell, Twomey seems to have more phantom draughts than Kit Walker's brewery.

2 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

I'm interested in Kolt. How is he running the session out? I mean he was touted as a player that was a link between mid and forwards who would work hard and maybe the ideal player to step in for Nibbler.

That's not the role I see him playing.

One, very much unlike nibbla, he doesn't appear to have the natural, elite athleticism the role demands.

Two, thst role doesn't suit his skill set - inside ball winner, elite kick (at least I hope he is - was as a junior), knows where the goals are and a real x factor.

I see him as a mini tracc.

A 60 forward 40 inside mid with kpis that include goals, goal assists, score involvements, contested possessions - and energy and buzz.

1 minute ago, old55 said:

It's Allan.

Is he the key?

On 06/11/2024 at 13:52, deanox said:

Unsurprising to me. The first season of AFLW was 7.5 years ago. The players getting drafted this year are probably the first to have a pathway open to them from age 10 or 11. 

I reckon over the next 5 years the quality of draftees is going to ramp significantly as we not only have a larger pool of girls who have played football their entire junior career, but we'll also have more girls coming from "elite" junior pathways and representative sides, where the talent pathways have identified the best players, and they've had the chance to improve by playing in those elite junior competitions.

Agree.

I generally only watch the dees AFLW games, but have watched a couple of the finals.

The skill level is miles better than even a couple of years ago. 

I watched the port hawks game. Thrilling last quarter, but what stood out is how many players looked like pure, natural footballers.

For example how players use their body in marking contests, or simple things like tracking the bouncing ball and waiting 'till it pops up so they don't have to break stride to collect the ball.

Once the majority of AFLW players are natural footballers, which is close, I'll be fascinated to see how it evolves tactically and to what extent it becomes a different game to AFL in tge way say WNBA is to NBA

By the by, the WNBA, after stagnating for a while, was hugely, massively popular this year.

A lesson there for the AFL, who to their credit created the AFLW. But since doing do not seem to know what to do with it.

All the money poured into NSW and qld to grow the game and they don't seem to realise women's footy is the key to the games future.

The AFL dies if grass roots participation drops off, which it had been for years. The explosion in junior women's footy will positively influence the number of boys playing footy too.

For years my son and daughter both played basketball. I coached both, and it would have made it super hard logisticaly if say my daughter instead played another sport in terms of supporting both kids.

And my son,  who is older, helped my daughter practise and helped me coach her team.

That collective vibe meant basketball was the sport of choice in our house - despite me never having played.

It's no wonder it's so popular in terms of participation.

My daughter played basketball in large part because her older brother was playing and it made sense for us as a family.

If my daughter was the oldest and she chose footy, my son probably plays footy. That dynamic supports male participation in footy.

44 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Best mates set for AFL

This quote in the article from Langford is music to my ears (and I absolutely love that he is a left footer):

“I really wanted to show my kicking ability – being able to find someone up forward, whether through score involvements or in the backline, and show my in to out handballs as well: being able to get the hardball, take a few steps, get away and get the (hands off),” Langford said.

“I’ve worked on driving power through my kick and find someone whether 20, 30 or 40 metres away…and finding the right option.”

19 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Yes I agree you just back yourselves to have a program where they buy

 

It has to help there are so many WA young players in the team, and some guns are that.

9 hours ago, binman said:

Really?

Given its notoriously difficult to assess talls given bigs who are 17-18 are still filling out and they don't hit their peak until mid twenties, i reckon JT's strike rate drafting tall is above industry average.

I may have missed some talls, but by my recollection JT has drafted in the following genuine talls (in order): Omac, Weed, Jackson, Adams, Turner, JVR, Farris White, Jefferson, Verral  and Ketfield. 

Of that group, only two were top ten picks, Jackson and Weed.

Jackson helped us win a flag and may well help us win another with the draft picks we got from freo for him.

JVR look a genius pick at 19. I have zero doubt will be in the top 3 or 4 key forwards over the next decade

Jefferson was pick 15. Jury is still out on Jeffo, but they think enough of him to have extended his contract. And signs are positive that he is building an AFL ready physique.

The rest are all speculative late picks.

Turner looks another genius pick - a mid season rookie draft pick at 21 who is best 22 lock. Gold from a drafting perspective.

We traded out Omac, but he is still playing AFL footy, and if he stays fit will play his hundredth AFL  game this year - statistically very rare for a draft pick past 50.

The jury Is out on Adams, Verell and Ketfield.

But Adams was pick 38, and Verell and Ketfield were rookie draftees so the opportunity cost is minimal, and even if only one plays regular AFL footy JT has done super well.

So by my reckoning, JT has drafted 10 talls - and only Weed and Farris White are definitive busts.

Weed hurt given he was pick 9, but Farris White was a Category B Rookie, so a nothing ventured, nothing gained throw at the stumps.

So at this stage, only one real bust out of ten selections.

The jury Is out on four players, but really only jeffo would hurt from an opportunity cost perspective if he doesn't make it given the others were a late pick and rookies.

Any recruiter in the AFL  would take that strike rate for selecting talls in a heartbeat.

I forgot Petty from that list.

Taken at 37 in the draft, petts is another big tick for JT in terms of his record with talls.

14 hours ago, adonski said:

Disco will explode in 2025 I reckon

 

Burn, baby, burn.

Disco inferno.

49 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Can I have some of whatever you’re on? I see a guy who gets it done rather than a star with JVR. 

There's none so blind as those who will not see.

1 hour ago, Mouseymoo said:

His record drafting talls isn't great. I'll just leave it at that. 

Really?

Given its notoriously difficult to assess talls given bigs who are 17-18 are still filling out and they don't hit their peak until mid twenties, i reckon JT's strike rate drafting tall is above industry average.

I may have missed some talls, but by my recollection JT has drafted in the following genuine talls (in order): Omac, Weed, Jackson, Adams, Turner, JVR, Farris White, Jefferson, Verral  and Ketfield. 

Of that group, only two were top ten picks, Jackson and Weed.

Jackson helped us win a flag and may well help us win another with the draft picks we got from freo for him.

JVR look a genius pick at 19. I have zero doubt will be in the top 3 or 4 key forwards over the next decade

Jefferson was pick 15. Jury is still out on Jeffo, but they think enough of him to have extended his contract. And signs are positive that he is building an AFL ready physique.

The rest are all speculative late picks.

Turner looks another genius pick - a mid season rookie draft pick at 21 who is best 22 lock. Gold from a drafting perspective.

We traded out Omac, but he is still playing AFL footy, and if he stays fit will play his hundredth AFL  game this year - statistically very rare for a draft pick past 50.

The jury Is out on Adams, Verell and Ketfield.

But Adams was pick 38, and Verell and Ketfield were rookie draftees so the opportunity cost is minimal, and even if only one plays regular AFL footy JT has done super well.

So by my reckoning, JT has drafted 10 talls - and only Weed and Farris White are definitive busts.

Weed hurt given he was pick 9, but Farris White was a Category B Rookie, so a nothing ventured, nothing gained throw at the stumps.

So at this stage, only one real bust out of ten selections.

The jury Is out on four players, but really only jeffo would hurt from an opportunity cost perspective if he doesn't make it given the others were a late pick and rookies.

Any recruiter in the AFL  would take that strike rate for selecting talls in a heartbeat.

15 hours ago, binman said:

Very strong Logan Run vibes.

On 14/11/2024 at 23:12, Nascent said:

https://www.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/1693173/gold-coast-suns-unveil-new-logo

Very strong Logan Run vibes.

1 hour ago, george_on_the_outer said:

….and Jones, Van den berg & Hunt gone from 2021.

True, though none could get a game come finals in 2021, so no great loss. 

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

My apologies, didn't realise I had a separate rule just to myself on how to reply to posters.

I hadn't followed his post MFC career closely, so did some catch up.

Heard some good reports

Rather than what seemed to me a run of the mill pre judgement that is prevalent on here.

I thought it is another shrewd recruitment along with Bassett and  Chunk.

I actually absorb as much news about my club as I can, this means if I talk to anyone from the club, I come from an informed position.

Why I enjoyed WCW reports, put a human face on the players, good to see the reports are still happening, despite the efforts of the 'Boys Club' on here

You do have the choice of putting me on ignore like I have done upon returning to a select few posters.

I have an opinion, which is neither right or wrong but it is MY opinion.

 

You completely missed the point i was making. 

5 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Why don't you do some research, he has been building a resume as a fitness/conditioning coach, obviously has impressed.

This sort of rubbish is what I was talking about saty.

Why the angst?

Was a perfectly reasonable question.

And a reasonable response is tom didn't make it as a player, but not because of effort.

He was extremely well regarded at the dees in terms of his commitment to training and preparation and was extremely fit.

Also was respected for his attitude and made a positive impact on culture.

A great get to have him back at the club.

Just now, Demonland said:

Clarry looking sharp and a lot fitter and trimmer than last preseason. 

Sunny enough for you skipper?

Our fixture is not great from a financial perspective or for our sponsors in terms of the lack of free to air Friday and Sat night games

Mitigating that a bit is we have heaps of Sunday 3.20 games, which are actually ok as they are live free to air and i susslect rate well because they run into the news.

And to be honest, dees fans don't always  turn up in great numbers for night games, so we won't lose too much in crowd revenue 

Making finals on the back of an easy draw would also mitigate the impact of less 'high commercial gain' games.