Dee-licious

Curnow had a heap of hype last year and coming into this season. He’s a very hyped player and I think the ranking isn’t on the 5 goals, it’s on his hype preceding it. I say this because I assume the article was written weeks ago and just edited before it was put up today. It’s the next stage in their ‘ranking’ series Oliver suprising but wait another 12 months and it will be different. I think you’ll see Bont drop, Billings, Oliver and McGrath move into that list and Lever, Crouch and Curnow to drop out (no offence to Lever it’s just defenders don’t make lists)

I’ll raise you: 1. We’re not the saints (SEN are canning the selection of McCartin over Trac) 2. Were not the dogs (how, just how) 3. We’re not Collingwood (so much money, so many draft picks, such a promising young list 5 years ago, nothing now). In seriousness: 1. 17 point half when Selwood and Ablett had 40+ touches between them 2. Clearance domination 3. Lever will never play that bad again.

The negatives have been well discussed here. We should have won. No excuses there, too many passengers etc. The positive: When we tried and actually played football, we held a Geelong with an inspired Ablett and Selwood to 17 points in a half of football. They will be a top 6 team, and we had them close to scoreless for a half. That is not nothing. Let's just see how this year pans out.

@Moonshadow - you didnt even get your scarf!

Thank you for your tick of approval. Jones was huge in the 3rd helping us get back into the game. Not just his ability to find the ball, but he was also directing traffic and coaching out there. Something that our other 2 leaders in Vince and Lewis didnt do much of at all today.

6 - Gawn - did everything but win the game. 5 - Trac - could have been bigger if he wasn’t sent forward after Taylor’s injury 4 - Clarry - showed he was in the company of Selwood and Ablett for a good part of the game. Not all, but a good part. 3 - Hogan - key forwards kick big goals. He needs a friend though. 2 - Jones - we came back when he told us too. He put us on his shoulders. 1 - I’m struggling here. Harmes was great in the 3rd. ANB bobbed up. Fritch had a solid first game. I’ll go with Harmes but now I know why we lost. Where were our other players????

All reports are that TMac and ANB are precautionary so assume they are given a light week on the track to ensure all is cherry ripe going into R1.

Yep more than happy to.

Listening to Gawn on SEN. Hilarious and: Camp with the AFLPA was a beat up and they were already cancelling the camp before the AFLPA got involved Gawn has put on 4kg since he came back Hogan in great shape and might play midfield, but clearly the best forward Lever talking a heap, looks like he'll be in the leadership group Gawn says he's a better barrister than Jobe Trac is going to play midfield and Gawn is looking forward to Danger, Selwood, Ablett v Viney, Oliver, Petracca Gawn looking at wine bars in New York but unsure; looks like there might be one in Melbourne and some food trucks as well. The best story was talking about the Simmons story. So not sure if it has been covered on here yet, but Trac had courtside seats, Harmes and Tyson were in the nose bleeds. The Trac was in the limo to NYC, H&T had to Uber there ($150 later), the uber turned up after the limo so H&T had to wait in the line outside before finally making it in. And apparently, Trac was in an area with Simmons and Le Bron that the other 76ers werent allowed into.

Couldn't be more inside if he tried. Not sure if he ever has had a loose ball get stat.

Going to put my 2 cents in here. Have loved Joel Garner for 2 years now. Really great kick, good speed, good decision maker, natural leader. He was in top 10 calculations coming into the year and did not get enough of the ball this year. He will fall down the draft order, and I think that he is a great fit for us. We have accumulated accumulators (Oliver, Viney, Trac, Brayshaw, Hibberd etc) and having a guy who gets 15 touches of a half back or wing and goes at 90% by foot complements what we have really well. James Worpel is one I am warming to now. He is an inside beast, AFL ready, whilst plays like Oliver, he kicks instead of handballs. There is a really nice piece on him today on AFL.com about his year and how his contested ball, tackling, clearances have been outstanding, his decision making has been second rate. However, his kick to handball ration is 7-3 which insane for an inside mid. Work on bringing that back to 1-1 and take his time a little more with his kicking, his 20m burst, his hunt for the football could really add good depth to our midfield. Hamish Brayshaw is one I wanted as a rookie last year and I wanted as a rookie this year (we have no spots) so bring him on down with our mid 40's pick. Ooozes leadership, is a great kick of the football, great overhead contested mark, clutch with his goal kicking. The knock on him is his speed, he has had a bad run with injuries, but really good decision maker. Is he what we have a lot of (Melksham, ANB, Stretch, AVB, Hannan)? Absolutely, but this is a fairly vanilla draft and he is a low risk option, like his two brothers, and will play 100 Andrew Swallow B+ games for whatever club drafts him. Also, Melbourne invited him to the combine and are one of four clubs (Syd, North, Collingwood) to show interest in him. As for our first pick in the draft, I'd say best available of the top 20 that drop. Personally, I think that might be Matthew Ling. I think O'Brien, Petrticcle, Richards and Moore go higher than expected (high risk high reward) whereas Ling is a quick player with good skills off half back who is a nice player without having the potential to be a top player in the comp. Thus, think he'll slide. Looking forward to seeing 4 new Demons soon!

Top 20 might drop a little but Won’t make it to our pick sadly. As you’ve brought up Brayshaw - rumours circling Freo like him at 2!!!!!

aren’t all our rookie spots taken?

Listen - I like him and have liked him in his draft year (was on the opposite wing to Z Jones and they dominated outside together). What Hartung does well is receive the ball and run. We dont have a lot of those players so the right price might be the way to go. The issue is that whilst he is a good kick - he seems to have not used it that well in games at the Hawks. A 3rd round pick and I'd jump at it.

Insane amount of upside and we are not giving the farm for him. Could be best 18 or could be delisted in 3 years. Don’t worry about it, let’s just see what he does.

This is doing the rounds now and expect it to blow up into a full blown steam train story tomorrow. Lansburger said he’s heard 5 and Balic but that’s unders. Unders? It’s daylight robbery. 2 first rounders isn’t enough for the dees to think about it let alone do it.

He was asked about the rumours that were circulating at the grand final - which was the alcohol comment =)

Zanotti files on Facebook with a great track record posted about Sloane. Trade Whisperer saying St Kilda have contacted GWS re Shiel

Townsend tagged Lever (interview with Townsend at the end of the game). An intercepting defender was tagged by their forward line. Our defenders don't get tagged. Just sayin'

Griffin is being linked to Carlton via Fox Footy as part of a Kennedy, Smith trade. However, with Gibbs staying, they might struggle to come up with the currency they want. Pick 3 is very high when GWS dont have a first in return. The idea was pick 10 for those 3 players. But without Gibbs going to Adelaide, no pick 10 for them.

Not really relevant to the thread but it's headed that was. The King boys, Walsh and Lukosis would all be top 7 this year and they are 16-17. If I was a bottom team I'd want 2 x top 5 picks in 18. This year, I like Raynor I like LDU but the development of the U17 boys next year should blow Raynor out of water

14 of 15 disposals hit the target including 2 kicks that went on to be goals in under a minute. in a game that was one sided he played a rebounding role really well

For those who haven't seen him play, the reason he's so highly rated as he just has time when he gets the ball in traffic. That's the Pendles comparison. His kicking was terrible but he's worked hard on improving it and it is quite good when not under pressure (not helpful). Doesn't have speed or break away speed like Oliver and Trac but does have serious Scully endurance. He is something different than what we have but considering we are a little slow at times and really we only have 4? Spaces on our list, maybe not the best fit.

GReat we are remaining tight lipped on the matter. Gen trained with us in his under 18 year and whilst he doesn't have speed there are some nice things to his game. Picked at 40 odd (although dropped like a stone) and has issues, played only a couple of games, packet of chips should get it done.

Ben and Max King would go top 5 this year. Scary what they are going to do next year. A. Brayshaw really looking like a top 10 pick now.