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I think there is a lot more to come on this subject Redleg. It will be the subject for a very good story when all is revealed over the next couple of years.

Yes I did Redleg and I agree that there are incontinences it our treatment on this issue. However IMO the AFL has always been thus and will be in the future. I never thought we would get a PP in 2013. We had just been done for tanking and had displayed over the previous 5 -6 years the worse management this century. The cry that the MFC had plenty of help to rise and completely messed it up and did not deserve a PP held some water IMO. I tend to think in the long term no PP this year might actually make us better. We have to get over the hand out mentality and get on with picking good players and building a good list.

I was going today Redleg as I was in the area but when the rain hit I bailed. I have seen enough poor ball handling to last me a lifetime in 2013. I plan to go Wednesday if it is dry.

Interesting article in the Hun today about the Bill Vlahos Betting Scheme that has gone belly ( now there is a surprise ). $180 million is said to have vanished. One of the big losers is said to be "Former Melbourne Demons President Mr Don Mclarty" My god what makes seemly intelligent people invest in these things. And we wonder my the MFC has floundered in recent years.

Not half as early as you TBF.3.53 am in the west.

Your concern for my safety is admirable TBF

Been in front of the computer all afternoon Redleg. Is there any new info out?

Over the years I have tried to use the "Sponsors" of the MFC. With limit success I have to report unfortunately. My major success was iPrimus. The not so goods were mostly either too costly compared to their competitors or simply appeared poor from my contacts. e.g. I bought Kaspersky virus protection and it did not want to download properly onto my computer. I contacted them and was told " oh we get a bit of that do you want your money back" . Fairly quick resolution but I have often wondered why they did not try and fix the problem. A couple of weeks ago I started looking for a new Car so I checked out the AHG dealerships. I have been to the brand dealer I am interested in and so far the experience has been ordinary. Not exactly rushed off my feet and their price is approx. $3000 more than a couple of other quotes I have had for the exact same car. Doubt I will be buying from AHG at this rate. I have a theory that because the MFC are not a "sort after Club" we end up with sponsors that are a fair way below the large successful companies. Do we get the also-rans and subsequently get the same level of service? Or am I just unlucky?

I would never have guessed bb! I don't like seeing the AFL tarnished with this crap. I have a couple of close Bomber fans and they are devastated at present I feel their pain.

You too TBF. Enjoy the trip away Sure you don't need a bag carrier?

Is it just me or is this whole Essendon thing sapping your enthusiasm for AFL level football in general? With every passing day a little bit more gets chipped off me. Once not so long ago I was an enthusiastic follower of most teams and games over the season. Now I take notice of most things MFC and then little of everything else.

Tough day on Demonland today Even a bit hairy on here. Think I will go to bed now

My "Like" button has just been pushed

I am struggling to find something to be intolerant about grandchildren.They are our future R&B Now I have just got to work out how to make mine dees fans. Just had a radical thought We could start winning lots of games!

It is difficult to buy non Australian bananas in Australia. It is the last great trade Protection for Aussie farmers.

Have been there a number of times over the last 35 years for both work and pleasure.Guess what it is my belief that like Australia it has got worse over that time frame. Interesting item about this subject and the USA. Three years ago in Hawaii I went to Pearl harbour / Missouri battleship and wore a black baseball type cap. Totally by accident it had "HMAS Ballarat FFH_155" and a picture of the ship on it. Given to me by a friend. I could not work out why I was getting the Royal treatment all day. In the Bus on the way home an american of my dads vintage said to me where did you serve? Suddenly hit me. The Bloody cap they they thought I was a veteran. Veterans still get get big support.

Spot on bbI am surprised so many have worked out breathing and continue to hold on to the skill. An ex boss ( actually liked him )told me " I was only born with so many heart beats and I am not wasting any of them on him" Seems a reasonable philosophy to me.

I know I am less tolerant now Bb ( read as grumpy )I am sure that as we age we have an increasing intolerance to things we have been fighting sometimes all our lives.

Probably spot on Redleg.After I typed the preceding I considered adding that. My wife would say it is all part of the ageing process, which may be true However I am confident it is part of a bigger society problem. "self obsession"

Is the lack of manners in society getting worse Or am I getting less tolerant?

You know I dislike with intensity the iPad method of spelling correction. Of course it would help considerably if I could spell in the first place!

My memory of early statements dc suggested it was hap hazard. there were people supposedly saying But "I had that yesterday".Anyway time will tell who is correct. Not a big number for me either way, I just don't see much happening to the majority of players if any.

It is my understanding Biffen that no records existed in the first place.It was administered by idoits or designed that way. Either way the fact that it is taking this long suggests to me they are having trouble proving a case.

Again me too!

I agree with you Redleg. I have been saying similar for months.