Bitter but optimistic

Never in doubt!

And thank you too you Doc. Nothing like a sharp chastising to start the day!

Thanks for the tip Lucifer - you clearly picked up on my technical shortcomings!

Thanks to me for giving of my valuable time and posting here.

Jeez Stu I'm really impressed! Where do you get all this inside information?

See post 20 Ron. The mods made a mess of changing the thread title.

So I'm off your ignore list Stu? I'm happy about that. I'd missed your moralising. Anyway, I realise Beveridge was there. Two points, however. One, I would consider it at least a part of his responsibility to ensure his troops turned up to scheduled events. He has some culpability. Two. One of the mods changed my original thread title which did not mention Beveridge at all and in which it was clear that my comments were aimed at the players.

Agreed faulty, epic planning fail - no doubt. However, once a commitment is made it must be honoured , and it is the responsibility of the coach and admin to see that it is honoured. What do you tell the kid who waited to see his/her heroes? "Err .. sorry kid but your hero is currently getting [censored] and can't be bothered with a little pissant like you" I've had many jobs (none of which paid 350k plus I might add) but if my employer wanted me to be somewhere/ sometime then I was there.

I just heard Beveridge on the radio, apologising for his players not turning up to a community show the cup/ congratulate the players type function in Ballarat. Apparently there was a crowd waiting to greet their "heroes"! He said they were "tired". In fact they were (are) still at the boozer. Rather explodes the myth of recognising the value and efforts of long suffering supporters doesn't it. Doesn't do a lot for the notion of the united underdogs from the west either , does it? The continued existence of that club came, to a large extent, from tin rattling and ground level support. It seems to me that the players have [censored] on this. As I have said in other places on this board the only loyal suckers at a footy club are the fans. It's time some of the prima donnas were reminded who contributes to their paycheck.

Do you think we might look at trading your love child Clarrie Chew Chew then picket?

There is plenty of vacant land in the vicinity of Romsey Manor. An ideal location for our social hub. I would even donate some entertainments.

Thanks again Fork I just watched those clips again. What a player he was. A genuine footballing genius.

Mmmmmm .. I'll concede the year had some pleasing aspects, however, the [censored] ups against Carlton and Geelong left a very sour taste. I'm not sure where we stand atm. We are certainly a long way off any of the sides I've seen play in the last 3 weeks.

No time to get maudlin and sentimental Sloon. Think of all the enjoyment you got out of giving that last bf the arse - saints supporter wasn't he?

Almost well put Pra just lacked a bit of vitriol. ( see my slagging of Bob Murphy) Yes I agree, I am [censored] it was the doggies and not us. BTW ignore Biffen the hypocrite is out selling drugs to doggies supporters.

No you guys I'm not jelous I loved what the bullies achieved and I recognised it in an earlier post. But my first and only love is the demons so I need to spew out a little dose of bitterness when another side achieves what we haven't.

Made some great westerns

What about poor old Bob Murphy? Bwahaha!! Bwahaha!

Thanks [censored]! I really needed to know that.

That is the best game of footy I've seen since 1964!!!!

At least there is no confusion with the bluerinsers eh dc?

I honestly cannot remember when I last watched a Brownlow count.

Ive been wondering about this myself dc. Our first pick is 27 or thereabouts which seems destined for Hibberd . as you point out we simply have not got the trading capacity for multiple delistings.

Did someone say "dirty old man"?

Arrh RTG !!!! You never fail to deliver!!!