P-man

Our adults, sure. Not every adult. Are you advocating "serious doubts over kicking" from watching a two minute video, that conflicts with a separate few minutes of video? Not some doubt, mind you. SERIOUS doubt. Not meaning to pick on that particular poster, I just don't understand that attitude. With all the importance placed upon kicking in today's game, the touted number 1 pick who has been studied at length has a huge black cloud over this most fundamental skill, and in 2014, this has either escaped the attention of every recruiter, or they simply don't care?

Got a chuckle from this. All so true. Sloane is quite possibly my favourite non-MFC player, but he is a certified helicopter pilot.

In the other highlights package he hits almost every target. So I guess based on THAT highlights package we can say that there are no doubts over his kicking. Huzzah, problem solved. With the amount of analysis that goes into Pick 1 these days, which has progressed further again from when Scully was drafted, I find it difficult to believe, nay, impossible to believe, that practically every recruiter would consider a midfielder who can't kick to be the number 1 talent in the country, especially when those expressing serious doubts over his kicking are doing so based on a two minute video.

Please just stop for a moment and think about what you're saying here. Pretty much everyone in the land whose opinion is worth more than a pinch of muck has him as a top 3 talent, with a majority rating him number 1, and you have "serious doubts about his kicking" based on a few minutes of footage. Think about it logically.

Not an issue. This still qualifies you as an expert under Demonland law. Section 5.3(a) of the Act stipulates that "any poster who judges a potential draftee using online video footage only is to be deemed an expert in the field of draft selection". It's all there in black and white.

He does seem to have a swagger about him, but by god, we need some of that.

If we land Brayshaw and Petracca.... I'm too excited to finish that sentence.

I agree to a certain point. He will be joining one of the lowest scoring teams in the game's history. Dawes lead the tally last season with 20. Jeremy Cameron in his debut season kicked 29. The bar isn't being set all that high for Hogan and/or McCartin to have an immediate impact.

The forwardline will also be +Howe +Garlett +a fully fit Dawes.

They need to get out of his way and let him go home. Absolute no brainer.

I hope he goes there and I hope they plummet. That would make me very, very, very happy.

Sensational news,

Ouch. So basically you have a constant, daily reminder of it. Unwise my friend. You are in a safe place here.

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Cheers all, glad you got a chuckle. Haha good. Half hour or so. Whipped it up whilst awake last night. Song - damn, I knew I forgot something. Liking the cloud gif idea

(Disclaimer: no offence is intended by the below. Just a bit of tongue in cheek to round off the week) Q: What colour is the sky? old dee: The sky is still blue after all this time will it ever change? i'll believe it when I see it rpfc: The sky might be blue right now, but it is naive to expect this is going to change overnight. We must accept that while others have a starry night sky, or a red dusk, or a pink dawn, our sky is blue, and it will remain blue until some significant changes to the way in which the air scatters the sunlight are made. These changes will take time. Ron Burgundy: The sky is the best thing that has happened to us in a long time. I have total faith in it. I love the sky. Satyriconhome: actually chap, I know where the sky is at and so does God. In fact when my lovely lady and I were talking to God the other day we spoke about the sky. I just like to entertain myself on here with all you keyboard heroes who think you know the sky better than God and I. WYL: it's still blue and it's still falling. When are we going to see change? How much longer are we going to put up with this incompetent sky? Webber: I thought I'd correct some of the statements being made in here regarding the sky's colour which are just plain incorrect. Except for light that comes directly from the sun, most of the light in the day sky is caused by scattering, which is dominated by a small-particle limit called Rayleigh Scattering. The scattering due to molecule sized particles (as in air) is greater in the forward and backward directions than it is in the lateral direction. Scattering is significant for light at all visible wavelengths, but it is stronger at the shorter (bluer) end of the visible spectrum; meaning that that the scattered light is more blue than its source, the sun. The sky can turn a multitude of colors such as red, orange, purple and yellow (especially near sunset or sunrise) when the light must pass through a much longer path (or optical depth) through the atmosphere. Scattering effects also partially polarize light from the sky, most pronounced at an angle 90° from the sun. Scattered light from the horizon travels through as much as 38 times the atmosphere as light from the zenith, causing it to lose blue components, causing a blue gradient: vivid at the zenith, and pale near the horizon. Because red light also scatters if there is enough air in between the source and the observer, these longer wavelengths of light will also scatter significantly, making parts of the sky change color during sunset. ENYAW: why does the sky do what it did? It just hangs there? I watch and think the sky, is not what it was 10 years ago. get the clouds to move to a different part of the sky ? dee-luded: the sky, forever changing, never constant. maybe someone else wants to offer up a bigger sacrifice to the sky?? just a thought Bitter but optimistic: bugger the sky I say! Who needs the sky when there is alcohol and women to consume! hogans heroes: The sky is pathetic. The clouds are hopeless and the sun is a loser. I hope the sky burns in hell for what it has done (three weeks later) The sky is absolutely beautiful. Redleg: The sky is still blue after all these years and it's about time we stood up to God and told him to change it. picket fence: The sky is blue but the clouds aren't puffy enough! Plus we need more rainbows! I propose we switch some clouds for rainbows! Just my view! rjay: That is an interesting question that you pose 'P-Man'. I think it is blue but I also think it can be a variety of other colours that we don't get to see as often. Machsy: Are you serious? How can you not know that? That is just about the stupidest question I've ever been asked. The sky? Seriously?? Jumbo returns: The sky is still blue and I am very skeptical of this God fella. I will wait to see what he does to change the colour of the sky before I sing his praises. Jaded: I stood underneath the sky yesterday while it rained. I stood there, wondering why I bother watching it while it pours down. But I'll be there again next week. Standing underneath it. Hoping it won't rain. Ben Hur: I could explain it to you but you wouldn't understand.

What does that have to do with how he performed on Petrie? It really was a very simple point. He didn't beat Petrie. That's it. He's beaten some decent opponents, and yes he's promising in that respect. I've never said any different. I am just less dismissive of his lack of skills. (Incidentally, I read very little into diplomatic comments from opposition)

Once again, it was a simple counter point to the comments pointing to Petrie's one goal as evidence that T Mac beat him.

Granted, but it is a clear overstatement to say that T Mac "beat" Petrie. That's the point I was making. Some posters might be comfortable in placing ALL their stock in McDonald and shout down anyone who dares questions it, like the OP has done here. At this stage I'm not comfortable. His horrible skills and decison making are not improving. They cost turnovers, momentum, and effectually, goals. Not putting a line through him by any means because in the lockdown role he has credits in the bank. I want to see him improve the other elements in his game more than anyone. But I'd also like to see another key defender being blooded.

For the record, Petrie kicked 1.5 and took 11 marks. The only thing that prevented a bag was his inability to kick straight.

If only this could all be attributed to a corked thigh. He's always been a horrible kick and at this level, it's a problem. Poor kicking was a significant factor in why we were humiliated yesterday and continue to be a bottom four side.

His kicking and decison making is diabolical and is showing signs of getting worse. It's a conversation worth having. Criticism of players like McDonald and Grimes can be shouted down, but they are both huge liabilities at present.

Smart fella P-man. Smart, handsome fella.

I don't remember it being this instant with Howe, and he certainly wouldn't get the commentators buzzing with his first touch of the footy. I'm predicting he is going to be every bit as important as Howe in terms of putting the club on people's radar.

I love the buzz that is already generating over this fella, including outside of club circles. It is palpable. Been a long while since a Melbourne draftee that ISN'T a first round pick has created this sort of excitement.