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I just keep watching his highlights, looks very ready to line up in round 1 for my money.. very complete and physically mature player.. what were you thinking St.Kilda you muppets

If you don't appreciate mid-90s Kidman I'm afraid you might be a little 'light in the loafers' :D exceptional specimen

Probably because Scully seems like the type of bloke that has no mates

I could see them both getting the microphone right after the siren after being BOG in a win

It's very simple. If it was just a lottery than the right side would be just as good as the left, which it clearly isn't, by a long shot. If the logical part of your brain can't work with that, I have nothing more to say. nutbean I agree with your post completely, it does not actually contradict what I am saying though. Obviously development is a huge part of the equation but clearly the teams of recruiters working year round to result in the picked order has a very tangible impact also.

really? the list on the left carps all over the list on the right. That's because the draft is not a random lottery as you suggest. There are exceptions here and there but the overriding trend is indisputable. Got it now?

I can't abide these 'draft is a lottery' comments. Below is 2008/09/10 drafts, first round on the left, second on the right. As you can see the difference is massive in overall quality and strike rate

are you kidding? we got him about 20 picks after where all the experts said he would go

shocking post, even for you

It's a very easy game for the feeble-minded. Scan a list of any draft, pick any good player in the whole comp that was taken after any Melbourne pick and get cracking on the negativity What they don't seem to realise is that you go to the forum for 17 other clubs and do exactly the same thing

I heartily endorse this thread. Hopefully we can contain all the: to this thread - The Ollie Whinge thread

nah but hoverboards of course

or forward one year as the sequel utitlised

dude he was clearly our best player that day and he was in the middle - the fact he has done SFA since then is the issue

nobody cares what you think, why are you reading this site then hero? PO

Jordie McKenzie's appearance is dubious

still have my doubts on him, just watching r22 now, early in the third Howe kicked it to him on the lead, kick was shanked meaning a constested ball contest. He got first hands on it in heavey traffic, but as soon as he did his head shot up to see the would-be tackler, promptly flinched and the ball slipped out of hands, losing possession. He is not fumbly at all, it was purely the pressure and anticipation of getting hit. Somebody like Hurley would not have looked at anyone, just made sure he took possession cleanly and smashed/baulked his way through the tacklers to dish it off. It was one of those situations where the tacklers were sort of flat-footed and a big man should be able to get enough freedom to at least get his hands free to dispose. Such a tiny difference in conduct but such a massive difference in the result. There are bigger more obvious things like this that he does, but there are also many smaller ones like this that go unnoticed/unmentioned.

and he is a surplus asset who can get some badly needed midfield quality in exchange

i'm not necessarily disagreeing with you entirely.. but I wish people would stop mentioning this as if it somehow adds weight to this Watts situation.. If anything it SUBTRACTS from it, for 2 reasons: 1) it is completely irrelevant as a reflection of our club, everybody in Australia knows he was offered and accepted an obscene amount of money and that's all it was about. Whoever had the number 1 pick that year would have lost Tom Scully to GWS 2 years later. Surely that is not up for debate. 2. We ended up being major beneficiaries out of that situation for a number of reasons. I thought this was generally understood around here? As many others have said, there is no reason to suggest that the departure of Watts, if it happens, won't end up being a positive event in the end. Don't get me wrong, I very much want to keep him, but attaching Scully to the situation in order to make it seem worse is poor play IMO

That's the post for me I don't care about any of the following issues: Should we have taken NikNat? Should we have debuted him on QB? Has his confidence been shattered? Has Bailey and/or Neeld been guilty of playing him out of position? He he shown much so far? What player might he become? What compensation are we likely to receive? All of that is peripheral stuff, and mostly relating to the past, which makes it irrelevant. The real issue is that we need to keep this player because he is required, and because a line needs to be drawn on our status in the competition

hmm yes the guy that is simultaneously labelled a complete dud yet a massive loss, amazing how that works

bout bloody time, they have been going around longer than Michael Tuck

in breaking news Dean Bailey has been sacked!

Jamar was with us for 7 years before becoming an All-Australian, only the last couple of those did he start showing anything at all - I know MJ's a ruckman, but still I don't think the jury should be in on CM yet. On the other hand there's a million McLeans, Millers, Bate and Newtons that got all the years they wanted and never delivered