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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Curry & Beer replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
#itsclarrytime -
minimum character requirements 1. don't be a scumbag 2. don't tattoo your face
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Curry & Beer replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
nab 2 for sure -
spot on
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nobody has blinded me, I try hard each week to see it but all he does is reinforce my low opinion - you can't just slap it aside with a flippant 'he makes the odd error' .. he makes plenty of errors, and big ones. He leaks goals, often through silly frees that a player of his experience should not make, and is one of the reasons we have lost so very many games during his tenure. He is supposed to be a senior leader but he does not deliver what the corresponding types at the big clubs do.
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very well said again Ernest Jones captain, Viney vice-captain/successive captain, leave it at that
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You don't trust your own eyes? When was the last time he was in your best players? I don't care what anyone says about off-field stuff, being an effective player on gameday is a critical ingredient to being in the LG. How do you command respect and inspire others if you are not pulling your own weight? It's also a bad look for the club to have substandard players representing us. If standing around looking like you're about to cry, generally showing zero passion and coughing up goals makes a leader then I guess he is General Patton. As mo64 has correctly pointed out, the fact that Grimes, Dawes and Lumumba were in there last year obviously shows the judgment of the overseers is not necessarily as sound as you purport.
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Only problem is that he is a liability on the field
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Curry & Beer replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
and Hogan will just be getting it on a silver platter from them where's the goodwin emoticon? -
I agree, and it's been on display this pre-season BUT when you realise there are a few not yet on the track, and the real squad is shortened by 4, you look at our best 22 and for me personally I don't see too many remaining weak spots at all. Our spine is strong and we have some real tough ball winners in the middle. If for ONCE in our lives we can have a decent run with injuries this year there shouldn't be too many Matt Joneses running around out there. To your second point you are spot on - Salem, Viney, Tyson, Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Hogan etc these guys are just oozing potential but to expect them to consistently do real damage on game day is asking too much too soon. I also expect about 10 wins which will do me just fine as I expect a few more wins each year until we are right up there, say 2018.
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Watts wants to stay but will explore free agency.
Curry & Beer replied to Bombay Airconditioning's topic in Melbourne Demons
change the thread title ban poster for life -
and clarry
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Well it is 26 in the squad, and about 6 are injured, that puts him outside the the best 32 or so doesn't it?
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Oh it's full of holes is it. The fact is we had no more than 5 good senior performances yesterday. If there are so many holes name a sixth for me please. So it was a bunch of kids up against another bunch. If we had been dragged over the line by standout performances from all the seniors it would be different, but that's not what happened
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well I've already made the counter point which you have chosen to ignore. You've set a stupidly low bar for experience BTW.. 26 games? Anyway, explain to me how this group of ours dominated the match. Our BOG was Viney who is 21. It's a very ordinary senior group and we all know this. It's not the portion of the list that we are excited about. So why are you pumping it up all of a sudden and talking about how they should have won by more etc We had more senior players out there but they didn't do a hell of a lot which means ti was pretty much a hitout between two young sides. Or are you going to tell me that the 'seniors' in Grimes, Pedersen, Dunn, McDonald, Garland etc were just all over the young dogs yesterday. Of course they weren't, and they will be phased out by the improvment of the superior juniors in time.
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It sounds like you are being impatient to me. I've listed 14 very young/inexperienced players there. There are half a dozen more very promising kids that weren't out there yesterday. It is natural to expect a great degree of slow improvement in this group over the next few years
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - CLAYTON OLIVER
Curry & Beer replied to Freddy Fuschia's topic in Melbourne Demons
absolutely noticed it, not something you expect to see so early and a very good sign about his instincts, as many have noted -
So obviously you're trying to argue that our team yesterday is some sort of polished unit of experienced senior leaders. Have you forgotten who you barrack for? Wagner 0 games J.Hunt 0 Oliver 0 Harmes 8 Stretch 11 Vandenberg 14 Michie 18 Salem 22 Frost 24 Kennedy 25 on top of that Viney, Kent, Tyson and Bugg are all 21/22 years old, hardly veterans. Of the other 12 from yesterday - Watts, Gawn, M.Jones, N.Jones, Garlett, T.McDonald, Grimes, Pedersen, Jetta, Vince, Garland, and Dunn - I will give you a total of 9 that should be classified as senior/regular/experienced players and 3 VFL players. So that's 9 out of a squad of 26, the rest were kids/VFL players and that's just a fact. On top of that, which of these players had a big impact on the win? Maybe about 4 or 5 of them? This is the huge gulf of senior experience we had over them? Please