RalphiusMaximus

It's possible you could be correct. I'd swear that wasn't there when I read the article at work, but it WAS work, so I was half asleep at the time.

Positives: We called our shot and we made it (Lever) We got Balic for a pick we almost certainly wouldn't be using Negatives: We got screwed on the Lever deal We got screwed on the Watts Deal I would have liked to see us grab a backup ruck as well, but there wasn't a huge amount of talent out there, so we'll leave that out.

This even got a mention in an article on AFL.com. Of course, the so-called journalist didn't credit DL as the source, he just said " an entertaining two-hour-plus interview." Not cool Mark McGowan. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-20/i-kicked-goals-on-all-of-them-dee-great-jakovich-reflects

This is a great deal. Balic can move when he's fit and more importantly he's a decent kick. For a junk pick it's really good value. Don't be surprised if he moves ahead of Stretch in the pecking order.

Ok. I think i've made it clear that i'm [censored] about this. No need to comment any more. Good luck Jack. You've shown yourself to be a class act on and off the field and I wish you a long and successful career.

I don't see a bright future. I see a coach who either refuses to acknowledge the real weaknesses in his side or is unaware of them. I'm not sure which is more damning. You can not succeed at football if you can't kick. As long as we persist in playing a side of hard-nosed butchers we will fail. You can not win games if you have no plan to score goals. As long as we persist with the high bomb to the "hot spot" we will fail. I've seen nothing to indicate that the Coaching department are aware of the issues with our ball movement. They made no move to rectify the problem during the season and appear to be genuinely bewildered when our opponents take clean possession off our F50 entries and score from them. Furthermore, they have just traded away the ONLY player on our list who has shown himself capable of consistently hitting forward targets. That is a great package.

Jack has been made the scapegoat for clubwide failings. Getting rid of him is only going to make the onfield failures more pronounced as our poor skills hurt us over and over again. Goodwin could have faced up to the failure of his coaching staff and flawed gameplan. Instead he chose to crucify an easy target among the playing group. Who will he blame next year when the same [censored] happens all over again? No, the club wanted to keep him. Look at the poll results. Look at the footage from the B&F and listen to the roar every time his name was mentioned. THE CLUB love Jack and wanted him to play out his career with us. Unfortunately the COACH decided to make him a scapegoat and traded him out for peanuts after rubbishing him in the press.

Nope, but I'm also not going to claim that he cost them a top five pick.

Top 14 pick. He was drafted at 14.

We can't win a flag without decent disposal, in particular better kicking to our forwards. Watts was the best we had and they got rid of him for peanuts. I don't. I have far less faith in the coach than I did a month ago. How is Lever a pick 4? They drafted him at 14. A first and second round pick was a fair offer and we should have held our ground.

They bent over on both trades. We're building a great reputation as a club that is more than happy to be screwed right there on the trade table.

We paid twice what Lever was worth.

Or with blue hair...

Not his determination... His ability? That is open to debate.

If the Powers That Be think this is a good move why don't they gamble and ask for Port's second round pick next year? Surely they'll finish outside the eight with their poor trading, right?

But waaaay under for a top quality ball-user who rates really well in pressure acts.

NO, I'm saying that you need both to win. What Goodwin is building is a team of hard-nosed ball-winning hacks. The reason we lost games that we should have won this year is because we can't kick and in particular can't kick to the advantage of our forwards. Goodwin's solution to this problem seems to be to get rid of the best kick in the side and recruit more hard nuts. While Lever should help our backline disposal, he'll do nothing for the delivery to our forwards.

Does anyone think a team made up of 22 Jack Viney clones could win? Goodwin obviously values the hard working hard nut, but he seems to be completely oblivious to the need for skill and finesse.

Gotta be tempted my Troy Menzel. He's a dick, but he has talent to burn.

Not a chance. Those industries have professional standards.

Nasty malicious little gossip. If he worked in a reputable industry he'd be unemployed.

Pretty sure we can take this as confirmation that we stuffed it up.

Adelaide are showing themselves to be an entire club of Dicks this year. They're trading like Essendon. Asking way over for their players. With the way they're carrying on it's no wonder free agents are going elsewhere. I just wish we'd stood up to them rather than reinforcing their poor attitude by giving in to their ridiculous demands.

It's great that we've got Lever to the club. I rated him as a junior and he's shown himself to be a quality player ever since. However, I can't agree with paying that much to get the trade done. We paid more for Lever than Geelong paid for Dangerfield. That's a damn poor deal in my book.

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