Darth Vardy

Those 4 things could happen and mean just about nothing towards our chances of playing finals next year. Bate being top 50 would mean he'd only improve a fraction on 2009. He was already close anyway. Likewise if Davey played like he did in a top 4 side he'd be pretty close to an AA gurnsey. Sylvia being in Brownlow contention would show we had improved as a side moreso than him improving. As for the rising star, it doesn't mean jack.

What we need to make finals is stability in a side that can win more games than it loses. If we're lucky, that list is in place now, but it's unlikely it's complete. When all these young players come on, some may fall by the wayside. What's most important is to get to the point where we only need 33 or so of the names on the list during the season... Not 40 of them.

So for this coming couple of seasons, while it would be nice to see some finals action, I would take just seeing a moderately normal injury list first.

Bate came fourth in our best and fairest, that means that there are arguably three players on our list closer to being top 50 in the afl then bate, judging by our performance last year and those particular players performance, bate would have to improve quite a bit to be a top 50 player. Assuming he continues playing in the fowardline this improvement would make him our number 1 forward taking the best defender (keeping LJ free) this would give us greater structure going forward and with his performance depending on delivery from the midfield it would also mean that the midfield was performing better.

If sylvia is in brownlow contention he would be taking the best tagger and beating the tag. This would inturn free up jones and davey thus increasing there ability to impact on games.

As seen in hannibal best 6 thread its the a teams best players that make a team and that can lift a team. Sylvia, Davey and Bate all performing well, will make the players around them perform better also.

This wasnt meant to be about what i thought would happen to 2010 but what would have to go right for us to make the 8 for example having an injury free season or jurrah kicking 70 goals.

Most people have us finishing anywhere from 10th to 16th, but what would it take for us to exceed those expectations and finish in the top 8 or even in the 4. For mine in order for us to make the top 8 next year (aside from a huge improvement in the whole list) i think-

-Bate to become a top 50 player in the afl

-Davey to improve on last years form and earn an all australian guernsey

-Sylvia to be in brownlow contention

-One of the melb youngsters to go close to winning the rising star

What are other peoples thoughts on what has to go right for the dees to exceed expectations?

It's clear that he will not be our second pick and thank god. All the Butcher fans have gone back into the cupboard. The last thing we need is another [censored] kick for goal nd Butcher is one of those. You can only improve a players kick by 10-15%

Being a big lad i think the scope for improvement in his kicking would be more then that of a small midfielder. Once he fills out, gets used to his size, and joins an afl system with professionals teaching him how to kick you would think there would be more then 10-15% improvement in him. I know myself that i went from a shocking kick an an uncoordinated 15-17 yr old, to a very good kick now as a 19 yr old once i got used to my body size.

Trade

miller + valenti + pk 50 => sydney for pk 38

Allows miller and valenti to continue their AFL careers whilst freeing up some space on the melbourne list.

In regards to the port trio of pearce, salopek and boak, i dont think it would happen but i would offer,

Jamar and 18 for Boak

18 for Salopek

34 and Jamar for Pearce

Jamar to stay, IMO he is just fishing for a better contract.

Bruce onto the veterens list

Delist

Robbo, Wheatley, Whelan retire

Hughes, Zomer delist from rookie list

Not sure about contract situation but from the main list delist:

Bartram- lot of heart but poor skills

Bell-traded to port for a late pk which we wont use

This gives us pks 1,2,18,34,38,PSD1, 3 rookies, and a promotion to Spencer

1.) Tom Scully- enough has been said.

2.) Morabito- tall game breaking midfielder with pace, good evasion and decent kicking skills (dual sided). Just the type of player we need, real star quality.

18.) Ben Griffiths- tall pack marking forward, has a thumping right foot kick and could be just the big pack-splitting forward we need to compliment Watts in the future.

34.),38.) Take another KPF forward here and midfielder with pace, maybe colyer and aaron black combo here.

Of course if there is a slider to any of these picks the best available should be taken.

Some more talent from the NT at PSD 1 unless we can convince pearce, salopek or boak to jump into the PSD for some cash.

Rookies- get a ruckman, Dylan Grimes and Daw

So we get two very good mids who i think will compliment each other nicely, a big KPF to play alongside watts, and then some depth in the ruck and up forward which we need. Another pacey mid, Jacks brother, Daw who has alot of potential, and PSD 1 which going on current form (martin and Jurrah) could be damn good.

People should remember that youtube highlights are exactly that highlights, Daw has tremendous potential but hasn't yet shown enough to be considered at pick 34. IMO he will be takin late in the ND or early rookie.

geez, get this thru ur thick skull .ITS NOT ABOUT WHO IS IN THE AFL THAT IS 192CM...ITS ABOUT WHO IS NOT. I REPEAT IS NOT IN THE AFL.

There are so many 191cm-192cm players that are overlooked come draft day or majorly slide.

And whoever mentioned Dunn is silly. He is already good. He is just being played out of position. He is a natural 3rd tall that has PROVEN to kick goals at afl level. But if he was 195-196cm..then he would have been drafted top 5 in his draft no doubt

Sorry to bring this up again, but i think freak is talking about the classic tweener, a player inbetween hieghts that afl clubs are not sure is good enough for the midfield or tall enough to be a KPP. Hence they slide down the draft pecking order or off the map completely.

It amazes me how often a person doing a Phantom Draft misses that point

I know i felt i had to make that comment before people started picking my order apart because player x is better then player y, but i took player y first.

What are people thoughts on Mckernan v Schoenmakers

Have the feeling the Mckernan will slide big time to around 19-25, both have huge upside but i feel schoenmakers is a safer pick. But at the same time i think Mckernan has better potential but is more likely to be a bust. Would like us to get Blease+Mckernan or Swift+Schoenmakers safer pick+high risk high reward pick.

Couldn't stop at 40, had to do the first three rounds

I also tried to pick for teams needs, and thus this isn’t necessarily in order of best to worst.

ROUND 1

Pick 1 - Melbourne - Jack Watts - KP Forward

Pick 2 - West Coast -Nick Naitanui - Ruck

Pick 3 - Fremantle -Daniel Rich - Midfielder

Pick 4 - Port Adelaide -Tyrone Vickery - Ruck/Key Forward

Pick 5 - Essendon -Jackson Trengove - KP Defender

Pick 6 - Carlton -Michael Hurley - KP Defender

Pick 7 - Brisbane -Chris Yarran - Medium/Small Forward

Pick 8 - Richmond -Jack Ziebell - Midfielder/Utility

Pick 9 - North Melbourne -Hamish Hartlett - Midfielder

Pick 10 - Adelaide -Phil Davis - KP Defender

Pick 11 - Collingwood -Steele Sidebottom - Midfielder

Pick 12 - Sydney -Stephen Hill - Midfielder

Pick 13 - St.Kilda -Lewis Johnston - KP Forward

Pick 14 - Western Bulldogs - Ayce Cordy F/S - Ruck/KP Forward

Pick 15 - Geelong - Tom Swift - Midfielder

Pick 16 - Hawthorn - Jordan Lisle - KP Defender

ROUND 2 PRIORITY PICKS

Pick 17 - Melbourne - Sam Blease - Midfielder

Pick 18 - West Coast - James Strauss - Midfielder

ROUND 2

Pick 19 - Melbourne - Shaun McKernan - KP Forward/Ruck

Pick 20 - West Coast- Ash Smith - Midfielder

Pick 21 - Fremantle - Michael Walters - Small Forward

Pick 22 - Port Adelaide - Ryan Schoenmakers - KP Forward/Third Tall

Pick 23 - Essendon - Rhys O'Keeffe - HBF/Midfielder

Pick 24 - Fremantle - Dan Hannebery - Midfielder

Pick 25 - Brisbane - Nick Suban - Small Defender/Winger

Pick 26 - Richmond - Jordan Roughead - Ruck

Pick 27 - North Melbourne - Mitch Robinson - Midfielder

Pick 28 - Adelaide - Nick Heyne - Medium Forward

Pick 29 - Collingwood -Matthew Broadbent - Midfielder

Pick 30 - Sydney - Lynch - Tall Utility/ Third Tall

Pick 31 - Western Bulldogs - Tom Rockliff - Small Forward

Pick 32 - Western Bulldogs - Jayden Post KP Defender

Pick 33 - Geelong - Luke Shuey - Midfielder

Pick 34 - Hawthorn - David Zaharakis - Midfielder

ROUND 3

Pick 35 - Melbourne- Jarred Redden - Ruck

Pick 36 - West Coast - Neville Jetta - Small Forward

Pick 37 - Fremantle - Jarrad Blight - Utility

Pick 38 - Port Adelaide - Kade Klemke - HBF

Pick 39 - Geelong - Aaron Cornelius - KP Forward/Third Tall

Pick 40 - Carlton - Mitch Brown - KP Forward

Pick 41 - Brisbane - Dayne Beams - Midfield

Pick 42 - Port Adelaide - Luke Stanton - Utility

Pick 43 - North Melbourne - Matt DeBoer - Midfield

Pick 44 - Adelaide - Paul Cahill - KP Forward

Pick 45 - Collingwood - Zachary Clarke - Ruck

Pick 46 - Collingwood - Steven Gaertner - KP Defender

Pick 47 - St.Kilda - Tom Hill - Ruck

Pick 48 - St.Kilda - Clancee Pearce - Small Defender

Pick 49 - Geelong - Sam Wright - HFF/Winger

Pick 50 - Hawthorn - Jamie Sheahan - Midfielder

Good luck with your exam Titan i also have one today.

B Whelan Martin Garland

Loose Man: Rivers

HB: Petterd Warnock Green

C: Morton Mclean Buckley

HF: Davey Miller Bate

F: Sylvia Robertson

R: Jamar Jones Mcdonald

Int: Dunn Bruce Moloney PJ

Line Ball/unlucky: wheatley, maric, wonna, belly

Rivers to intercept the ball coming into defence, dish it green/petterd then push forward hard. He has the game smarts to know when to hang back and when to push forward.

Obviously Watts is to raw to play KPF next year, but what are peoples thoughts on him playing on the wing, endurance might be a problem but he can certainly move like a midfielder.