Nasher

I agree; the other thing is that the Swans have a reputation in the industry for being very easy to deal with; they pick their target and put their best reasonable offer forward first up (hence the Jolly, Mumford deals etc). If Tippett had picked Essendon, on the other hand, I'd absolutely despair if I were an Adelaide fan.

It's just words, wyl. Him saying he wants to go to the Swans doesn't make it so. If the Swans can't engineer an outcome using the functions provided by the AFL, Tippett won't get there. Remember how Nick Stevens desperately wanted to play for Collingwood?

Sounds like Mitch Clark Wants To Go To Freo to me. Great in theory, but how?

Genius! What could possibly go wrong with this plan? Ignoring that little thing about it not being at all how the system works, of course.

At 27? My money's on a year of wild ups and downs, where the theme around here lurches between, "lazy, OUT OUT OUT" to "Sylvia: has the penny finally dropped?", he'll come about seventh in the best and fairest, and next year we'll have the same discussions all over again. Just a hunch.

Not a fan at all and don't see what he'd add to the side.

Yes at 28 he ought to get the walking stick out. He's less than a year older than the current Brownlow medalist. He hardly missed any games this year through injury apparently, and is about to do Kokoda so I'm assuming he'll do a full pre-season. Regulation injuries pending, he won't touch a Casey jumper next year.

I thought it was straight out of the Eddie encyclopedia of ridiculously OTT hyperbole.

Am I the only one that hates the term "war chest"?

For what it's worth I really only had you in mind for the last paragraph. For the first two I had in my focus the amazing contributions from the likes of McQueen and wizardofoz. Quoting is way too much effort. Anyway, I think this is one of the types of situation free agency is designed to engineer; a player who doesn't add much to his current side now has an open door in to a club that needs him a lot more without the need to roll the dice in the draft. It's a win for us and the system I think.

Who was the last premiership player we had on our list? Dual premiership player I might add. He's an exemplary character with a strong work ethic coming out of the best team in the current era. He got overtaken by young guns like Christiansen and Motlop - no shame there. He will play a role where our previous options were Davey and Bennell, and he's proven he can play that role at Flag grade. We're desperate for senior players with leadership as we seem to be in a permanent spiral of our list getting younger. He comes for free. I'm amazed people can't see the upside here. No, he's not Tippett. But if you're looking for that one player who's going to lift us above his shoulders and carry us from our current misery to glory then you're going to be spending the rest of your life disappointed.

Sorry to those who took the time to respond to oli's dribble (particularly Oucher, RGRS and Jordie) but I've deleted the Cook/Menzel comparison and everything that followed - that line of conversation was destroying any possibility of a readable discussion in this thread.

Yes, I despair at the thought of paying pick 4. We throw away the opportunity to get a much needed star for two players who definitely aren't.

Not sure if it's been posted elsewhere, but I heard the complete opposite; he'd been told in no uncertain terms where his game was lacking and where his career was headed, and said he'd rather stay and work his guts out to correct his game than be traded. Gotta love this time of year.

FFS. If this wasn't already ridiculous, it definitely is now.

I agree. It's not being panned that irks me - as others have said there's plenty of reasons to pan us, it's the general way he does it that is irritating.

Wow. Feels like he's been around long enough to be 40.

Ditto. As much as I'd love it, if Rivers and Moloney added up to one golden pick then the system is buggered. It will (or should) be two middle of the road picks.

Not involving Free Agency is surely a con rather than a pro. It means the club they are at have an opportunity to play hardball and force us in to overpaying in terms of draft picks. None of those guys are any sure thing either, there would be a significantly higher level of risk paying for someone like Butcher or Gumbleton than having a proven forward come for next to nothing. And I thought the idea was to increase our competitiveness now. The two options don't have to be mutually exclusive either. There's no reason we can't go after Lynch and Butcher/Gumbleton. Edit: beaten to the punch by Oucher.

Someone younger such as...?

I like the other unfounded rumour better than this unfounded rumour.

He must be thoroughly sick of playing in Grand Finals by now.

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31478-the-quinten-lynch-thread/page__st__75

Exactly. He said post-match that he got a wakeup call from his teammates mid year. This is his third club and in half way through his 8th season in the system he shows signs that he might finally get it. Even then, my money is on the wheels falling off sooner or later. I don't have a lot of faith in guys who have shown traits of extreme laziness in the past. For every Steve Johnsons who turns it around permanently there's heaps of Adam Heuskes and Travis Johnstones and Nick Davises who just can't sustain the effort for any longer than a year or two.

Same here DOF. This site (and 'ology back in the day) gave me a connection to the club and an opportunity to network with other MFC supporters I'd never had anything like before. I don't think I'd be even a fraction as passionate or active as a supporter if I hadn't had such an opportunity to feed of others passion and support. It's why I like to give back to the site as much as I can.