Nasher

Jesus wept. He's in the side. He knows he's in the side. We all know he's in the side. He'll play the game, in the seniors. There is no other message being sent. From reading the Plapp articles, the message he's getting is an encouraging one. Stop looking for gremlins that aren't there.

How would you feel if Port Adelaide offered us Andrew Moore in a straight swap for Jack Watts? That's similar to what you've offered.

Titus O'Reily: Henderson quits Carlton to try his hand in the AFL. Razor sharp.

Forget about Kent, Lucifer. With three AFL games to go, one will be a half in the dev league, the second will be a full game in the dev league, to round out the season with a Casey seniors game. Might play finals for Casey if they do, but that's it.

Can't believe what I'm seeing here. Ahh, Melbourne.

Fair enough mate. I do share your grief.

We're just as likely to see this very same group pluck a great performance out of their arse as we are having any of those changes improve the side. Ten changes or none, makes not a shred of difference to me. In: Tyson, Salem Out: Raffle it

Sweating the small stuff, as they say. Not sure I've seen an alternative out there standing up and taking the game by the scruff.

I'm sure that if Paul had thought of that we'd be playing heaps better.

Cross handballs to Hogan's feet. Dawes and Jones collide going for the same ball. Every man for himself.

You know Goodwin is in the same box right? Roos has the final say, but it takes a true team effort to be this poor.

I'm not finding it to be exhilarating.

I can't help it. I don't know why. Masochistic tendencies?

Well, that escalated quickly.

Current position for me is not much different to rpfc's: Delisted: Jamar, McKenzie, Fitzpatrick, Bail, Riley, Michie Signed: Garland, Howe, Toumpas, Pedersen, Cross, Hunt Promoted: Harmes Retained: King (third year rookie), White (second year rookie). Would consider keeping Riley or Michie depending on trade outcomes, final draft position etc. 5 players is enough to turn over IMO, and may be more if Howe or Garland walk/are pushed. I reckon Hunt has done just enough in recent weeks to move from "not shown enough" to "gets benefit of the doubt".

With all due respect, this is classic MFCSS. The link between Dermie rating him and Hawthorn making a play is tenuous at best. I always thought Gawn would re-sign, purely because there was no reason why he wouldn't.

I agree on the timeframe, but I have to confess I was surprised at the "flick of a switch" manner in which his improvement occurred. I remember a comment from one of the coaches (Plapp, perhaps?) that they were pretty worried about his early season form. He was immense against Geelong and hasn't looked back. It's been great to see.

Righteo. I can't reconcile in my mind how the two are comparable, so we shall agree to disagree.

Even if it would make a difference (and I'm still not sure it will, though obviously my $5m example was extreme), I don't know how you can assess it from the outside. 1) we don't actually know how much Dawes is paid, we can only guess, 2) we don't know how much other players are being paid relative to Dawes (which is what matters). So not only is it boring administrative detail, it's boring administrative detail where we don't actually _have_ the detail. It's an exercise in pointlessness.

I don't think whether Dawes is paid $50,000/year or $5mil/year is going to make a lick of difference to the team performance. To me it's just tedious administrative detail.

Retaining Martin, as I understand it, was not an option in 2012. I'm not that fussed anyway. Gawn is a much better player, and it would be the second time Martin has chucked the toys out of the cot and walked from a club.

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/38894-max-has-re-signed/

Not sure of your point rjay. Obviously how the team performs is important fans...??

Please tell me you are kidding.

Our current team on paper looks better than that one. VandenBerg is the only player in that side missing that hasn't been replaced by someone equal or better. Not that that means much with our team.