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Shit yes. Tension is killing me. No matter who wins, it'd be hard to argue that they didn't deserve to be there. Cracking.

Wow, this game is red hot. CARN THE DOGS

Great to see Zak Jones play himself in to a Grand Final. Excellent game.

Taping him up and trying to get him back on apparently.

Far out, game over already. I really feel for Geelong. BWAHAHAHAHA. Gosh, I can't say it with a straight face.

Summed up my feelings on the matter as well. I won't refer to them as "drug cheats" - I don't think their intention was to cheat. I think they cocked up majorly and attempted to cover their arses by lying, so the penalty was in the vicinity of fair, but I don't think their initial intent, when participating in the supplements program, was malicious. Others will disagree, but I'm not going to debate it any further. I'll leave that for those who are passionate on the subject.

He was joking.

There are six VFL seniors regulars on that extended bench - four Casey listed and two MFC listed. Two players are going to be super unlucky.

How old was Vince when we got him (for pick 20)? The Bummers, like us with Vince, will be wanting a few players who increase their competitiveness immediately. I wouldn't dismiss the trade purely because of his age.

If there's anything particularly off or inappropriate, make sure to report it please. Can't speak for other moderators, but I generally don't read this thread.

I am assuming this is some obscure attempt at humour that has gone way over my head.

Yep - no dispute there. It's only the degree of "more confidence" that I'm arguing. I love arguing grey positions :-) I would love to see Wiz Jr running around in MFC colours (assuming his son is the same sort of player!) Probably my favourite player through my teenage years.

Fair enough. I wouldn't base a life decision such as moving thousands of kilometres away to somewhere where I didn't know anyone, when I could do the same job without moving 100 metres, based on the footy team my father barracked for. But I accept others might. I shall agree to disagree.

It's why I went for "barely relevent" instead of "totally irrelevant". The kid has grown up in WA, I think his desire to stay home (or otherwise) will vastly outweigh any other factor, including pressing from his father. I'm just not sure that most 18 year olds, given the option, would move to the other side of the country when given they don't have to. Don't get me wrong - I'm happy for the Wiz to push him in our direction, but I think people are overvaluing the weight of that pushing. He's his own person who will make his own decision.

Whichever club his son chooses (on the assumption he is up to the grade), it won't be up to the Wiz, so his opinion is barely relevant.

The old "I don't really get it, so I'll make up a high salary and attribute it to that" trick.

I'd be really disappointed if the club lobbied not to play a big game, most probably at our home ground, because we were afraid of losing. Bring on the Bummers I reckon.

If Essendon want to prove they're not tools at the trading table, this is a golden opportunity to prove it. Fair price (our second rounder) seems to already be close to agreed upon, and the trade period is still a month away. There shouldn't be too much left to argue about when the time comes. Get it done on day 1, Melbourne and Essendon, so both clubs can turn their focus to other business.

Nah mate, doesn't count until a Brownlow medalist comes to us as a FA.

The annoying thing about the position people like pf take is that if it does go pear shaped, it'll be "see! I called this year ago! Slow slow slow! Fence knows footy!". We can all see he's not what he was before, right now - that's why he played in the VFL all year. If it's obvious to me, it's obvious to Goodwin, Viney etc. It's about the vision for the future, obviously they see a different one, but if they happen to get it wrong, fence will use his own lack of imagination to justify his position. Fence takes the vision free position, then carries on like he's an oracle if he turns out right. I reckon it's soft.

Agree, although I have to say it was pretty concerning during the era when Welsh was coaching, Casey were struggling and had an exodus of all their good VFL players. There were reports of the time about Welsh not implementing the MFC game plan at VFL level and thereby coaching towards his own ends; that's pretty terrifying when we're attempting to use the club as a vehicle for our developing players. There has been a definite shift now, with the MFC having the appropriate amount of control required to get what it needs from Casey, particularly with Plapp being a full time MFC employee. It's definitely paid off this year and both clubs are enjoying the spoils.

I highly doubt we'll still be in the game at pick 98.

I didn't see the game, but when I looked at this last week, Scott had been in the seniors all year where Morris and Munro had been in and out. Might give some idea on possible pecking order.

He's not in our system. The amount of MFC resources spent on his development has been minimal; we won't be compensated if he goes elsewhere and nor should we be.

And you took a photo of it, because you just never know when you might need to use it?