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I'm all for insurance players, but you need to be confident they can actually still play at AFL level, otherwise they are just eating up a valuable spot on the list. Are we that sure Minson can? He did not demonstrate so this year. In Minson's case he (and/or Spencer) would also be eating up all the ruck minutes at Casey that need to be spent on Mitch King. I doubt he's leaving the Bulldogs to be a VFL ruckman elsewhere anyway.

2 games in 2016, when fit. Big fat red flag, surely.

Getting a fair deal done early is the way to go. It saves everyone a lot of time by skipping the negotiating part and landing at agreement very early, it stops emotion from playing any role, and it builds confidence between parties for future deals. IMO it would be a total disaster if the two clubs starting huffing and folding their arms and stomping their feet like the Essendon/St Kilda negotiation last year. It makes it take forever and prevents us (and Essendon) from getting *any* other deals done. By those comments from Dodoro, it sounds like getting it done early and reasonably is the preferred option. And@Redleghas been saying for ages that this deal has already been agreed to.

Pedersen is there to buy Weideman time. This is an indication that the club does not want to put undue pressure on its young players. It's just a responsible signing rather than an exciting one.

If there is to be a handover, with some jiggery pokery I could probably make LH the OP in this thread. Alternatively, we can start a new one.

One year deal. Well done Cam and good luck. No surprise really, was clearly in the cards when he went in early for the knife. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-10-06/pedersen-inks-new-oneyear-deal

http://demonland.com/forums/topic/40982-wheres-rpfc/

I reckon being very good in the ruck is just a nice to have. Not a relevant KPI for Boyd/Hogan/Hawkins IMO. Marks is probably the numbers that really matter as goals can be a function of role being played - this is where Dawes really lets us down. The reason Boyd was so effective was because he marked it every time he got near it, which I hadn't seen him do until that point. He only averages a whisker over 3 a game; his 8 in the GF was a career high. For comparison, Hawkins now averages 5.4 and Hogan 6.9. An 8 mark game wouldn't even be in Hogan's top 10 statistically. I still think there's room for circumspection regarding Boyd. He has now played a total of one game that does justice to his talent. Nobody has been proven wrong or right on anything yet IMO. It was a ripping GF, though. He sure picked the right match to play the game of his life.

His career trajectory is not too dissimilar to Tom Hawkins, who at 38 games had kicked 49 goals. Hawkins best is 68 and he regularly is in the 40-50 range. That's probably about where Boyd is going. A 30 (ceiling) goal forward would put him in the Chris Dawes region; I'd project that Boyd is going to be a lot better than that.

I went and had a shower once, and when I came back, Paul Roos was our coach.

I'm sure clubs would be happy to assist if Port took on a piece of his salary.

In before someone sooks about the length of the contract. Great news!

Thanks for giving a bunch of Demon loving misfits a place to share our love (and sometimes endless frustration)! I think my connection to the MFC would be far weaker without Demonland.

Collingwood took Scharenberg and Freeman. Yikes.

Yep. Adelaide, West Coast and Brisbane (Bears) were also clubs that were 100% manufactured by the AFL. "Expansion clubs" have been popping up for 30 years, I think it's probably time people accepted that the old VFL is gone and isn't coming back.

Was it this game? http://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1996/011119960630.html He didn't register a stat, and it was the last game he played for the MFC.

Don't know if you remember Nudge, mo, but his general modus operandi was referring to his 'contact', and a long post of one liners full of completely made up stuff. It was always great fun to read I thought as it got the imagination churning, but the people who took it all way too seriously would get upset because none of it turned out to be right. So yes, similar credibility to GNF I guess.

Spot on old dee. Fantastic way to round out a very pleasing year.

Nup, not remotely sad. Didn't even feel happy for them, I felt happy *with* them. I felt a part of that victory like I never have for a team outside Melbourne. Great day, great game. And for me, it was the first sign I've seen in a long time that you don't need to be a power club to win the flag. It brought the dream to life for me.

That's my view too. It wouldn't surprise me if the Dogs are flat and disappointing today, the hype has been through the roof. Swans are old hands at this. Would be happy to be wrong.

Mitch Thorp or Joel Selwood? Xavier Ellis or Josh Kennedy or Scott Pendlebury? Beau Dowler or Nathan Jones? Every club misses players. Get over it.

GWS hardly looked out of condition. Their game against WB was one of the most intense games I've ever seen.

"I don't want to play Essendon on Friday night in front of 70k because we will lose." Do you guys see how sad this sounds? Bring it the eff on, Essendon.

What's the future for the club if the VFL did not revoke its licence? It has been hopelessly uncompetitive for years now. If I was at VFL HQ I'd want to be presented with a vision and a solid plan on how it was going to be achieved before reconsidering. A petition won't cut it. I admire the passion in this thread, but I can't see how it does either the club or the VFL, which is the state's second tier competition, to have an easybeat side parked on the bottom of the ladder. If the club is still viable, let it register in a lower competition where it might have some hope of success. If not, let nature run its course.

I had a vague recollection that he'd played for the MFC, wasn't sure if it was right though. 42 MFC games, 31 Footscray games and 45 St. Kilda games - a true journeyman. On a totally unrelated note, how come whenever you type a footballer's name in to Google, the first suggested search is always "xxx yyy wife"? It's just sad that that search is so common that it's the first suggestion. So, so many losers out there.