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Exactly.. The confronting reality is not that we are doing what we are...it's that this is the preferred choice of action for whatever is the reality causing it.

There's also those things that run on ribbons of steel... Well ...there are. Some even stop across the road 🤷‍♂️

What he said ^^^^

How badly do we want him back ? He's gone nowhere quite yet. How badly do we need him gone ??

Totally concur

We're ushering out 2 mids.. We need at least one back.. from somewhere. Picks only garner us some wet behind the ears kid(s) . I really dont thinks picks cuts the mustard .

He would have done a physical with us. He's probably reached his use by date at the filth but still handy for us. We'll see i guess 🤔🤷‍♂️

But in this instance thats a stance we can take. It's Traccs idea to go. We dont have to give him away. If the deal isn't to our liking...which we said at the outset then... yep.. walk away until they come to the party. No need to settle for seconds.... we've already said he WILL play for us unless a satisfactory deal is offered

Might be a little of both. My thinking is Dees weren't quite expecting THAT reaction.

He's also not bright enough to suspect he's being used to drive other's agendas

Don't forget Plan A-fu We walk away. It's actually an option.....and one described at the very outset.

I don't What's more useful to the club.. It's classically.. a bird in the hand or two in the bush ??? Dees aren't taking two " could be/ might be " picks alone . We have Tracc... he goes NOWHERE without our blessing. Who knows ... he might like the new Melbourne 🤔🤷‍♂️

And it's only Friday... Lots of fun and games still to play out. Melbourne at start of trade week.... I don't believe it has , nor should change .. Overview Melbourne list boss Tim Lamb stated that while Christian Petracca is contracted for four more years, the club will only entertain a trade if it's in Melbourne's best interest . He has said they will only deal if a quality offer is made that will improve the club's future premiership prospects. It is understood that a potential deal with the Gold Coast Suns or Adelaide Crows would require the interested club to "pay up". Melbourne's stance: The club is adamant that Petracca will be a Demon next year unless a trade is agreed upon that benefits Melbourne significantly. Trade conditions: The club is looking for a "quality offer" that will improve the list, with list boss Tim Lamb stating, "If someone wants him, come and talk to us – and pay up". Potential suitors: Both Gold Coast and Adelaide are interested in Petracca, but the Demons want the Suns to get more involved in negotiations due to their stronger draft hand. Alternative: If a suitable trade is not reached, Petracca is expected to remain with the club and play out his four-year contract. Stay true Dees .

If you want to g tive GC leverage... stay at the table. Want to take away their power, leave. They think they are in control. They're not. Tracc might think.he can just walk, he can't. What you do is reset the 'discussions'. We actually DON'T need to do the trade. I'm not guessing how you negotiate. I've some experience. The first rule is to have a firm grasp of what you want and what you're prepared to offer. The second and only other rule is , stick very close to that or dont do a deal. Very important if you aren't doing the negotiations yourself make sure whoever is has a backbone.

He's still there huh.....

What were they thinking... ?? Let's just ease the boat off the slip 😉 Ohhh... bugger.... someone saw us oops/not-oops 😉 (GC certainly weren't going to )

It is now ...imho.. a classic... lesser of two evils or the garnering of the greater opportunity. Do you forego the chance to recruit a certified gun, an epitome of a franchise-player to retain a good ( who could be great ) player ? Which is worse ? Losing Humphrey or losing Petracca ?? Now I chose the word lose specifically. The greatest motivator for the human.... is FEAR, not GAIN. We mortals do not like to lose out. GC will have a lot more explaining to do if they let Tracc slip than should they allow Humphrey to go-home for "reasons" The framework for the "sell", for the trade , is right there. All Bailey has to do is... Press....

Not a throw away point imho. We have been s̶t̶a̶l̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ watching him for some time now !!

Go Dees ...

Just this guy wandering around...

Why ?? I won't boo him...but not likely to applaud the opposition either. Not just for the hell of it. I'm sure he won't be offended.

You're funny. There is so much out there but as you'd without want with your Hammer and Nail explanation , I'll it throw that right back at you. You DONT want to see what everyone else does. I'll not waste my time trawling to show you all or even some examples but its been well documented, publicised and scrutinised. Im sure the club mollycoddled him for no reason at all. Im sure Max,Wife and kid were just just so traumatically lonely they had to take in a border. There are those that post here that know stuff that would make our hair curl .. The list goes on. By all means ignore it all. The club hasn't. Go Dees

My gut feel is either Humpty comes home or we do. It's deal or no deal. Might be Club prepared to hang on to Tracc.

So much else to do...... Hmmm...

Very interesting... you've gone to town and back defending Oliver , which is your privilege. You then offer up this morsel. The application of this tenet when discussing Oliver's actions to his mates, rest of team , indeed tge club as a whole might of itself be the best example, if not definition , of IRONY I've come across for some time. Thankyou