Gorgoroth

Ash, a few years ago i stood there with my mate and cheered every sydney goal and im sure ill cheer the blues like i would melbourne. It's more the fact i DON'T want carlton to get the pick than us to get a better pick, if the number 1 pick wouldn't go to the blues i would prefer to belt the crap out of them!

I agree it seems harsh but byrnes got 5 weeks pre season, only served 4 due to early plea or good record, the thing that really went against johnson was he had time to stop or to tackle but chose to continue to bump him.

I would say oh for a bartram or a ling or a some one who can do a job but also use the ball.

Glad to see the match review get it right, see you next year you [censored]!

I would have Connolley as a foot department person, just not coach

Cheers mate, i'd wish you the best at hawthorn but....... i hate them so i hope you fail mark robbinson on sen today said when this was announced "maybe its sheedy to melbourne with shaw to take over from fagan, (as shaws wife and kids didn't move to freo with him)

Amen to that.

No, they get enough wrong without sending off someone who might not have deserved it. I know the ben johnson case is easy to judge in the heat of battle but there will be other cases where the ump makes a bad decision and it affects the game.

min 4, i will be listening to SEN tomorrow to hear the verdict.

You cant, you have to employ the dozers from fragile rock.

I agree wheats is in our best 22 but i don't think he is the best option to kick out, but our problem is in many more ways not who is kicking out but how long we take to kick it out, and when we huddle we dont sprint, we run.

For me, i would be happy to see brock have it and grow into it, but i think junior to have it for 2 years then hand it to the chooka. If green gets it and i do think he could be a decent captain he will want it for 4 years and thats too long to wait for chooka.

The difference is fletcher is usually close to goal so less time to wait, secondly fletcher is good enough to hit targets, wheatley misses too often.

I don't know, but i agree, if robbo plays next week or v the blues I will be miffed. I know the guy probably wants to but tell him to rest up for a big pre season.

I would be very happy to see thgem go, miller i still would liek to make it but im starting to really give up.

I'm still seething even now.

Yeah i was behind the goals at the punt road end and the noise was good.

A lot, he use to teach at my school and when he was coaching the eastern rangers i had mates there and he was awful, then he tried to coach our school football side, had a list of where every one played at their clubs and he still put us in the wrong positions, but all of that means nothing really, just look at the record with the shockers, undiscipline rabble! who can't win away from subi!

The guys on triple m said he was in trouble and billy on sen said he deserves 4 as it was said the whole time bell was running straight at johnson so ther was no late turn, if he does not get 3 before his remaining points gets added i will spit chips.

Guys please, bruce fit is a very good player who use's the ball well, mclean is the same, but this year both have had injury riddled years where they have been well below there best, and hopefully next year we will be arguing over who deserved the 3 votes due to both having 30+ touches, 2 goals each and 4 tackles

If we sign RIley or Connolly i will cry.

Brown gets the ball, panicks and gives to who ever is closest, he has heart, courage blah blah blah but if you can't dispose of it is such a manner that it benefits your team then you are useless and brown either chips 15 meters backwards or sideways or he handballs to some one 1 meter away in a worse possition just so he doesn't get caught. I truly hope our new coach tells him to retire.

White and jamar last night we pathetic, white had 8 disposals or something like that, i actually thought we were rucking against cox and everit, thats how dismal they were.

Exactly, i more proud of myself for 2 reasons, firstly that im am so angry i couldn't sleep last night due to how much i was hurting (doubt most players would be) and secondly that i didn't run onto the field at half time to smack every melbourne player for the disgraceful performance they were dishing up. Being Proud of last nights game is why we never succeed! we settle for too little! Sure the second half was great, and with the injuries it was better, but i EXPECT! that sort of commitment from the first bounce, not half time, or actually part way into the 3rd when bell got hit, We should have played like mongrels from the start, instead we were weak pricks who didn't run, chase, tackle, shepard and put their bodies on the line. We also went into a game with robbo clearly unfit and bate hobbling in the warm up, nothing to be proud of, just disgusted that they have not the respect or love of the big skipper to bleed for him for 4 quarters.