Gorgoroth

I'm not even going to bother watching this. We are looking at a massive massive loss.

It would need to be 14 million a year to get him to our squalor.

I only watched the first quarter and a bit and he was pretty good.

Judd, Pendelbury, Ablett etc have been heavily tagged for the last eight years... They copped, Jones doesn't very well. He then goes into his shell and his leadership falls very very badly.

We have no leadership on field, there is our problem and has been for a long long long long time.

[censored] off Howe, just [censored] OFF!

Gawn spoils Hogans Mark....

Thanks chook! Sig changed

Insipid effort, insipid players, insipid club. Get that in Latin and change the clubs motto to it, cos that's what we fucken are.

Hogan kicking is poor today but his marking is so so good.

11-2 tackles. Weak as [censored] Dees, Weak. As. [censored].

Game over.

And those two kicks by Salem is what he needs to play around the F50 on the wing.

I'm ready to call game over... Ha ha...

Gawn needs to belt the ball at rucks, we are getting smashed around the clearances.

Viney is getting belted by Murphy already.

Very good kick from Michie for Salem.

Grimesy with our first.

Four umpires today...

Carrazzo to tag ANB... until he is subbed into the game.

Dunstall saying what we all say. Thomas just playing for free kicks, throwing himself to the ground. AFL needs to fine this f!og for all his acting and diving.

AFL should be investigating Carlton starting... Now.

He is still young and has not played many games, but within those games I have seen things to show he can make it at AFL level. Def keeper I reckon. Most players require at least 20+ games to feel comfortable at the highest level. FFS we have persisted with M jones (50 games), Bail, Terlich etc for longer and they have shown less skill wise than this guy.

Can't wait to see Trenners back and firing for the MFC. He will be a great half forward with some midfield minutes then hopefully build back into a full time midfielder.

Going to be a draw.