I feel like I need to step in to return serve to the people criticising the comparisons to 186 as it was the first post I made in the Postgame thread on Sunday seconds after the siren. In no way am I comparing the severity of these two results, it is obvious which one is worse. But in terms of embarrassment? The not wanting to show your face in public feeling? Personally I haven't felt the the levels reach that height since 186. The only game that comes close since then is Rd 2 2016 and losing to a bunch of VFL replacement players. Those of you who cannot see why such a comparison would be made need to look beyond the basic mechanics of final scores and margins. The two games were obviously poles apart but the level of utter humiliation wasn't. Not to mention the timing of when these results occurred (coach under serious pressure and the club in disarray). In some ways 186 was easier to deal with because the result was a forgone conclusion for 4 quarters. The club has at least held its nerve for 2 days before swinging axes, had the emotion reach fever pitch levels like 2011 we could have seen the same action and then I'm sure it would have felt very familiar. I couldn't give a damn how close the game was, is that really supposed to be some kind of comfort? Really? This club set some amazing standards for a brief period but great teams do not set records like these, it simply doesn't happen and it is completely indefensible when it does happen. Taking comfort out of blowing a 46 point lead just because it was a close game compared to 186? Give me a spell. And honestly, how much more comfort do people want to take out of the nearly finals wins in 2023 if not for inaccuracy and one player being injured? Kicking goals is a very important part of the sport and we have had probably a dozen games since then where we 'would have won if we kicked straight'. I'm getting tired of hearing it, after that long it's no longer a good cop out line. Games are decided by goals, you either kick them or you don't. They don't give a Nobel Peace prize for attempted chemistry. I've said a ton of times that I've been undecided on Goodwin and will credit things he's done even this year but this narrative using our inaccuracy to support his case as a coach needs to stop.