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I've had it with Oscar McDonald's pathetic performances. Surely there is someone else on our list who will put in more effort and intent. Cant believe Goodwin thought it was a good idea to put him forward for part of today.



Omac missses a mark or tackle

*trudge trudge trudge*

Omac gently extends arm to opposition

*trudge trudge trudge*

Opposition either:
A) fumbles the ball

*Omac runs over it and falls over*

B) passes it to a team mate nearby

*Omac initiates turning circle of a truck, misses the player and slowly jogs it out over the boundary*

*feigns exhausted face, head down, trudge trudge trudge*


Me on couch with head in hands: "ffs
Oscar..."

A shout out to Nathan Jones.

Playing some of his best football. There was a moment (45 seconds to go in the 3rd) where he handballed it out on the full trying to link up with Langdon, and just smiled. For a bloke that's pulled us through some pretty crap periods in the past, its great to see him enjoying his footy, the team and some great wins. Go dees.

1 minute ago, In Harmes Way said:

How the hell did the umpires miss JKH getting pushed in the back/knocked over in the defensive goal square by Lynch, leading to a goal. I saw that from 3 states away. Bshit commentators called it fell over. Fellas - it’s not the radio, call it when it happens, including the crappy umpiring.

I think it was Jenkins, who then handballed to Lynch for the goal.

The true crime was Fritsch not impacting the marking contest enough then not keeping up after Ellis-Yollmen, allowing the overlap and inside 50, then Omac for completely misreading the play and being turned out nearly 10m by Jenkins.

JKH weirdly backed up into Jenkins when in front and should have used his pace. Took an easy option for himself. I dont blame the umpires, and think it was the right call. JKH didnt take the game on and a bigger body came over him. Play on.

3 of our worst pressure players involved.

Watched just after half time. Still baffled at how professional athletes earning an average of $310,000 pa missed easy opportunities.

Behinds in H2:

Weideman x2
Gawn x2
Harmes x1
T. Smith x1
Jones x1
Hunt x1
 

With this season now a write off, the club needs to be more ruthless on who gets game time. I.e. if they're not going to be part of a permiership team, dont play them. Garlett, OMac and JKH.

50 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Salem, Hannan and Hibberd all bring much needed experience back into our side. The Hannan selection to me is smart, get him and straight into AFL fitness. 

+414 games experienc net... amazing to think Petty, Lockhart and Wagner total only 11. Hopefully going to get some much needed leadership and direction.

1 minute ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I said Frost had a great last 15 mins but he was pretty ordinary up until then. When may and lever are back, on form this year neither omac or Frost will get a game

That may be the case mate, but you've got to work with what you've got. Frost isnt the smartest footballer, but takes the game on and is fast... more importantly got us 4 points!!

 Take a bow Frost - what a game!

2 goals against us directly from players handballing to above the target's head. Professional athletes and they cant do the basics. Skills are appalling.

7 hours ago, hemingway said:

This is the major failing of the club and specifically the coaching department.

It reflects poorly on the professionalism of the club particularly the coaches.

Rather than spending time on study tours, our coaches missed the opportunity to look closer to home and do some critical problem solving in a methodical and analytical manner.

It's quite incredible when you think how complacent the club was in its view of our list, our game plan and our opposition.

Like its supporters, the club approached this year with unrealistic expectations following two successful finals matches. We celebrated those two wins rather than address the problems that were so evident against West Coast. 

Consider the reinvention of Geelong after an unsuccessful finals campaign. Everyone outside the club wrote them off for 2019 and beyond, however, the Cats culture and professionalism has seen them emerge better and stronger than ever. 

What happens from now to the end of the season will be very important to the future of the MFC. I don't believe that we can rely on players return from injury as an antidote to our problems. It is not bad luck we are in this position. We don't have minor problems or issues to fix.

The club has a hell of a lot of work to do to become successful. The improvement of 2018 has been smashed and destroyed.  It feels like we have taken two or three steps back rather than one. Our window of opportunity for finals success has suddenly become very  narrow. 

In the space of 6 weeks, we have regressed to the losing culture of the past. The players look beaten. Even in the first quarter of the game against the Tigers, we looked like a poor side playing well compared to the Tigers, who looked like a good side that could not find its rhythm. 

We can only hope that the club has the character, culture and professionalism to learn from its mistakes and can address the systemic problems evident this season.

     

 

Great summary.

What concerns me are the potential implications of this year. The introduction of free agency and two expansion clubs during our rebuild meant securing young talent got immensely harder, and the talent we took the risk on, spent the time training, and finally those few that succeeded, was farmed and rewarded to the more successful clubs - whilst we got their leftovers.

I finally thought we were out of this period at the start of last year with Lever nominating us, and our finals finish.

Being bottom of the ladder is going to make a lot of players question their future at the club, and with blood in the water the other clubs are going to start to circle.

I really dont think the club has it in it to establish a winning and professional culture without a significant change to current practices. The fact Goodwin hasnt even watched the preliminary replay is damming to their ability to learn from their mistakes and change.

If cohesion, skills and the game plan are the main issues, it seems counter-intuitive to send everyone on a 4 day break.

I would have thought going back to basics and working on inside 50 effeciency would be a good start.

On 4/3/2019 at 8:03 AM, Lucifer's Hero said:

The way it looks to me:

WCE, Pies, Hawks, Cats:  Control and Possession football:  Use the width of the ground, stretch the defence.  Precision kick/ mark to move the ball downfield.  Zone and man-to-man defence.  Need great disposal skills and discipline to follow the game plan/positioning/leading etc.

Richmond, Bulldogs, Demons:  Chaos football:  Get the ball to ground, move it forward as fast as possible in any way possible.  Predominately zone defence.  Highly dependent on winning contests.

Adelaide:  don't know but looks like a hybrid.

Ess, Carlton, Freo, GCS, Saints, North:  no discernible system that looks like either of the top two.

Port, Sydney, Brisbane, Giants are more like the first group but not as refined/skilled at it.

I respect the way Geelong and Collingwood control the ball. More than willing so switch it back or back again if they dont like their options inside 50 or that link into deep forward.

Means they tire out the opposition defence, maintain possession and greater chance of scoring with a more meaningful kick inside 50 once they find a target. Antithetical to what we do.

Ps, great summary.

Any chance guaranteed Grand Final tickets are refundable and/or tax deductable?... asking for a mate

5 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

We need a dangerous small forward like a Jeffy big time. Lever can't get back quick enough too.

I miss Vanders as well... good pressure and for a couple of goals

Happy with Max arou d the ground tonight against Essendon. Played very well.

However, would like to see Preuss play to take a bit of pressure off Max and also TMac. Hogan was still good for 40 goals and the #1 defender. No reason why Preuss cant be like Mason Cox and ease pressure in the ruck, forward and kick out target from defence.

Im so disappointed.

It seems to me that the game has passed us by.

- too many players going for 1 ball (an issue last year)
- not enough spreading (an issue last year)
- mass inside 50s which clearly is a quality vs. quantity issue
- poor forward pressure
- zone defence when the game's 6v6v6 format advantages 1on1
- poor kicks from defence to 40m when clubs are taking advantage of new rules to 60m

The stock is there, but the strategy isnt. Really poor coaching.

We've lost a prelim, 2 JLTs and 3 2019 games... thats 6 in a row. What have we done to change?

Never thought we'd be 3 rounds in and #18.

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

That was actually Todd Viney who did that. I must admit i thought at the time it was the wrong choice to choose Green as a captain. He was a very selfish footballer. 

Good memory.

Goodwin able to call Roos for some free ManShakes?

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yes. 

Not sure whats that got to do with an AFL captain being dropped?

He was captain under DB. Ive never seen a captain dropped, but being a captain sub was just as bad (cant lead from the bench). I can recall that it attracted a lot of critisism at the time.

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dropping Jones? FFS Are people stupid enough to think an AFL captain will be dropped!? [censored] wake up to yourselves, never has that been done in the history of AFL.

I have been asking this question since last year, but what on earth does ANB actually add to this side?? It is a complete joke Wagner was dropped ahead of this spud.

Our depth is being tested right about now and i feel we are a Brayshaw or Oliver injury away from being a bottom 6 side.

Did Bailey make Greene a sub once?

Whats got me worried most is some of the coaching.

- Defence: we're kicking it back in short around 40-50m. We should be going long and wide to force the boundry and put some distance to the goal (at least 2 possessions). The rules have litterally just been changed to make this easier. Salem kicking out in the 4th was a good example. Kicked it short and straight to Dangerfield on the 50m arc. Danger could have kicked it himself but centered to Menagola 40m out and goal. Geelong and Collingwood go long and wide. Seems to work for them. If we're worried about the contest and height, play Preuss.

- Midfield: got to stop the long bomb forward. At least send it high so we can make it a contest and bring it to ground. Brayshaw was a good example in the 4th. We got the best tap from Gawn, Brayshaw cleared it to the centre square with no pressure (good use of new 6v6v6 rule) but goes deep and long straight to two Geelong defenders. There was a lead if he lowered his eyes or could have gotten a forward to make a contest if it sent it high to the middle.

- Forward: servicing is a big issue, but there is no intensity or pressure. At least make it difficult to get it out. The current strategy of bombing it in and hoping we will get a goal isnt working. 25 more inside 50s but lose by 80 points is damming. It did feel like we were missing a player or two everytime it went forward, so focus on pressure and presenting. Anyone know where there are stats on forward tackles? Would ne interesting to compare ours against Geelongs.

Long story short; we've been found out.

Read this morning that WCE cleaned their rooms before they left after the GF.

The only other club I know that does this after every game and training is the All Backs - arguably the most successful sporting club in history (~80% win rate?!) This is part of their culture - that no task is too small - and they always recruit character over talent, as talent can always be improved.

We've had a great season and set up a really good base for next year. But I hope we are looking to instill a long term successful and winning culture.

Had a family dinner so could only get back home with 5 minutes left in the 3rd.

Amazed to see McDonald on Hawkins. I thought Frost would have been a shoe in. Cost us 3 goals. This loss is on the coaches.

On 7/13/2018 at 7:25 AM, Bates Mate said:

At least 2 should be 3 eyes of the ball and elbow to the head. So what if Zach tuoy played out the game it was intentional high impact in my book it floored him. 

Told you mate. What a joke.

Smith in please.

I need some mid cover in my supercoach team. Dropping like flies.

Just now, Bates Mate said:

At least 2 should be 3 eyes of the ball and elbow to the head. So what if Zach tuoy played out the game it was intentional high impact in my book it floored him. 

Yes, but Tuohy coming back on means he passed a concussion test. So whilst it was high contact, its not considered as bad.

Tex is insufferable - so would prefer him to be out long enough for Adelaide to just miss finals. Means he can enjoy all the "success" Lever gave up.